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Saturday, March 30, 2013

Rookie actors express their concern over idol actors


Article: "There are an abundance of actors so why would they use idols?" A concern of an actor aspirant

Source:
Star Today via Nate

24 year old actress aspirant A is on her way to film a short film in Hongdae. With her is one big bag and various shopping bags filled with clothing. Because she doesn't have her own manager or coordi, she has to prepare clothing and props on her own.

Although she isn't a theater or acting major, it's been a longtime dream of hers to become an actress, and she figures it's now or never. She's been at it for three years so far, starting with small theater stages and working her way up to a few roles in some short films. Still, the road to calling herself a full fledged actress seems long and difficult.

Minor role actor B, 33 years old, works part time at a restaurant on days when he doesn't have filmings. "I honestly make more money here than what I get paid for filming." He doesn't want to give up his dream, though, because he feels happiness on the set of the film crew.

There are about 520 registered actors with the Korean Movie Actors' Association. In total, there are probably over 5,000 if you count the actors registered with other associations, aspirants, and trainees. Their jobs are limited to dramas, movies, theaters, and musicals. Currently, 5-6 dramas are being aired on KBS, SBS, and MBC, and about 30 in total if you count the cable channels. Last year, a total of 150 Korean movies were released. A couple dozen musicals and theater shows are put on in a year.

Although the numbers may seem like a lot, there aren't a lot of opportunities for actors to demonstrate what they're capable of. Landing a role to appear on TV is about as difficult as snatching a star out of the sky.

There is an exception, though. Actors with unique images or appearances and popular idols and singers have a better chance landing such roles. Singers especially don't have to prove their acting talents at all, as they're handed roles in dramas, movies, and musicals thanks to their name value alone.

Producers can't ignore the ticketing power that these stars hold. Unfortunately, it comes with a price, as the producers and the cast end up earning criticism in the end, with one such example being TVXQ's Yunho, who played the role of 'Baek Do Hoon' in SBS's 'Yawang'. Fans welcomed his appearance on TV and loved his acting, but there were just as much criticism on his acting actually bringing down the quality of the drama.

There are a lot of singers who have earned favorable reviews acting on TV as well, however. From JYJ's Yoochun to After School's UEE, as well as IU, who's been receiving love for 'The Best Lee Soon Shin'. Yunho also has shown improvement. Unfortunately, what they should be aiming for is not improvement but acting that would make anyone give them a thumbs up because there are a lot more aspirants who dream of being in the position they are.

B said, "They keep saying that there aren't a lot of 20 something year old actors to choose from, but I know so many actors that are great at acting. I really don't understand why they keep using singers. Producers are just using them for their ticketing power, which I can understand but don't exactly agree with."

A said, "I do admit to feeling jealous of idol singers being able to land roles so easily. Because they got hooked up with a strong company, they're able to sing and act. I auditioned for a management agency in the past and they asked me, 'How about you sing first and then go into acting once you earn popularity. It's an easier option.' I used to wonder why people would use idol singers when there are so many other talented actors, but I realized that it all depends on your popularity. I wanted to take the offer, but I wanted to act more than to sing so I rejected it."

A popular drama producer stated, "I do admit that we expect to garner interest from the fans of the singers. That's not all, though. We cast singers as an actor and because we feel that they're the best fit for the role."

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1. [+194, -12] Sure, I can understand using idols. The problem is that the producers are using idols without any acting skills whatsoever as if they're some type of insurance. They're using idols as capital in important movies and dramas. Nobody would care if they could at least act, but they're lowering the quality and the flow of the work with their crappy acting.

2. [+167, -71] It's easy to export it overseas if they use idols... There were even rumors of  Dr. Jin selling out overseas because of Jaejoong being in it.

3. [+139, -16] It's truly a problem ㅜㅜ Seems like idol singers all turn to acting once they reach a certain age ㅜㅜ Of course, there are exceptions but they should stop!

4. [+48, -16] Honestly, there are just as many actors that suck at acting... It's just that idols get hated on because of their image and the ease at which they land roles.

5. [+43, -8] There were actual fans that liked Yunho's acting...? Was I the only one that hated it...

6. [+40, -20] IU's a good actress..???????????????

7. [+23, -18] You have to admit that Yoochun, UEE, Suzy, or Lee Seung Gi are all worse than professional actors. They're just pushing forward with their fandom.

8. [+19, -12] Well we live in a reality where Park Yoochun can win three trophies at year-end ceremonies ㅡㅡ

9. [+19, -0] It's worth getting the hate and using idols because they earn a fanbase, export rights, investments, etc... And there are plenty of actors who don't have any skills, but still, leave the acting up to the actors...

10. [+18, -2] I think it's okay to use idols, as long as they're talented and they go through the same audition process as anyone else. There are actors who suck at acting as well, you know...

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Source: Everyday Economy via Naver

1. [+40, -2] Even if they're an idol, if their acting's okay, I don't see why it'd be a problem. There are, however, those that suck really badly like that elephant Suzy... She just crosses the line. I've never seen more crappier acting than her's. Absolutely jaw dropping with how bad she is in 'Big'.

2. [+33, -4] If they are going to use idols, I'd rather they mix them up with other good actors so that even if they suck, the other can carry them. Soon that drama with Suzy and Lee Seung Gi will begin and I can tell already with it being a historical drama that it's going to suck

3. [+30, -4] Suzy's going to be in another historical drama... and I truly wonder whether producers see anything in Suzy's acting. I can never understand them. Her pronunciation, her voice, and her looks are just enough to be a singer. She looks so plain and like a little high school student in her dramas.. I don't see anything about her that says actress.

4. [+14, -4] Producers are obviously using idols to export the drama, not for their acting skills.

5. [+19, -10] For some reason, any drama with an idol in it just doesn't feel serious.

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206 comments:

  1. .~: Pretty Plastic Boom :~.March 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    There are way too many Idols debuting and they're crowding the markets! Let the people who actually aspire to be a real actor/actress get the role first, then give the left over roles to Idols aspiring to do so. So tired of actually talented people being overlooked all the time for some quick won due to some "get rich scheme". That's why everything sucks nowadays cause nothing hardly ever has good quality. Like even singing wise, it's usually one singer in a sea of pretty, plastic faces in a group nowadays as it should be everyone in the group should have singing talent, rapping talent and/or dances really well.

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  2. it's rarely the fact that they're idol that bring criticism. it's the fact that most of these people will get spots without legit auditioning and purely due to their name and then bringing awkward cringe-worthy acting to the show.

    No one wants to see someone improve, that's for acting lessons and smaller gigs i.e. theater and cable dramas. People understandably have standards for major network shows and want the completed good product in front of them.

    I completely understand their concerns even thought sometimes their dislike towards idols undermines legitimate criticisms.

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  3. Star power has a lot of sway in any industry. I'm sure you could have a big debate about Hollywood actors and who is/isn't talented relative to their fame. I am not a big drama fan but it seems to me that the industry has lots of problems to it overall, always seems to be stories about actors not getting pay or the terrible filming schedules. Idols are an easier scapegoat to blame than tackle that kind of stuff lol. Although to be sure, some of them should never get on screen.....

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  4. There is no solution for this idol actors.
    Producers will use idols to sell their dramas/movies overseas
    Koreans will have to watch their crappy acting and cringe
    And rookie actors will have no chance

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  5. I can see where netizens are coming from but just wondering how come they bash yoochun and lee sun gi when they both are on the level of lee Minho. There are some actors whO are just as bad as idol actors why don't they ever get hated on, and I really am asking it as a question so please don't bash me

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    1. But Lee MinHo is not doing 4 dramas in two years as "some idols" have done. Even if they are in same level of acting (which mostly they are NOT) those other two drama could have gone to an actor and not the idol.

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  6. Korea needs to focus more on getting some actor/entertainer guild/union going on cause the whole "let's not pay ppl for working" even with the big networks is disgusting and absolutely ridiculous.

    On topic tho producers do need to realize that there is a clear difference between an A-list star and a D-list star with A-list recognition in the entertainment industry. Just because your name is known/infamous =/= you will actually bring in money or legitimacy to a project. I'm sure most of these producers/casting directors want a legit career in korea but if all you're known to be is a short-sighted greedy fuck who ignores quality and instead prioritizes international sales based on idol name value you ain't gonna have much of a future anywhere.

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  7. 1. [+40, -2] Even if they're an idol, if their acting's okay, I don't see why it'd be a problem.

    I agree

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  8. I for one share sympathy with these rookie actors and actresses. It's really hard to imagine being in the same shoes in them and how hard it is. Best of respect.

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  9. Sometimes I wonder how many idols out there actually wanted to be actors instead but went the idol route because they knew it would be easier landing roles that way.

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  10. Shame on Suzy and IU. Those sucking girls.

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  11. Everyone has to go hardships and sacrifices, not only idol actors but also rookies. EVERYONE has it HARD not only those who are not popular but also those who are popular.
    You're time will come so just keep going and work hard! Do your best and treat everyone around you with respect.

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  12. Well I agree with the first part, but however until the pretty plastic faces part...I am really sick of people mentioning how K-Idols are plastic and all. First of all, how do you know they did it? Do you have proof? did you see them go into a plastic surgery place or something? And when they do plastic surgery, you call them out and criticize them and when they dont, you call them ugly. Make up your mind! And for the last comment, thats basically what a group is about, it depends on how many people are in a group. If a group has a few singers that are good singers, a few good dancers and a few good rappers than yes. but when groups have a lot of members and the rest just get a few lines and almost act as back dancers, people criticize them. i think a group is the best if every member has a role( for ex. my fav group shinee= onew is the leader and lead singer, jonghyun main singer, minho the rapper and visual, key the all talented one who can dance sing and rap, taemin dancer and has become REALLY good in singing and they all are funny on variety shows*specially key jonghyun and onew, our maknaes are too shy) well off topic, on acting i do feel bad for rookie actors i just wish the dramas would cast idols normally and cast them if they can ACT! *rant over

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  13. You know where the comment's gonna go.

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  14. I know wonder girls sohee did that

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  15. You're living in dreamland with that last bit.


    If the world was fair,maybe that would be true but its not.The more money the producer brings in the longer his career will be.There is no such thing as a "one hit wonder" producer.Investors and broadcasting companies will look at who pulls in the most money,regardless of the quality.

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  16. Well it's like this: The entertainment industry is there to make money, not expressly exist to fulfill people's dreams. Yes it's cold. No, I don't agree with it. But it is what it is.

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  17. 'How about you sing first and then go into acting once you earn popularity. It's an easier option.' I used to wonder why people would use idol singers when there are so many other talented actors, but I realized that it all depends on your popularity. I wanted to take the offer, but I wanted to act more than to sing so I rejected it."

    Well, that's kind of dumb. You had a chance and didn't take it. There are good idol/singer actors and there are bad ones. There are also bad full time actors as well that still get cast in roles. It's all about popularity and making money, not actual talent. It's a business. Though I still wonder how and why some idols get cast in roles.

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  18. I think projects that r bound to be successful will do so no matter what. Top rates dramas and movies last year didn't have headline idols in it do producers need to man up and just stop casting idols for safe keeping cause the rewards r just a couple of countries buying the drama rather than a movie/drama which would be remembers for a long time. Another thing some idols r really good like I watched miss u and to me yoochun was by far one of the best Korean actors that I have seen loved him in the drama and I will probably for wee see him as Jung woo and i also like si won from zea it just that the crappy ones that act r giving every idol turned actor a bad name

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  19. there are just as many wannabe actors as there are wannabe idols. It shouldn't matter if they are idols or not. If they are good they should get the part. if an actor sucks, they shouldnt just get the part because they are an aspiring actor. its really stupid to me that they write articles about this

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  20. i think dramas are based on plotline, luck and then the skills of the actors/actresses.

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  21. Also, not only is acting required for a successful drama but also the chemistry of the cast as well as the story of the drama itself. Bad story even with good cast will receive poor ratings and reviews like that with Goong Yo and Suzy called BIG

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  22. I don't think luck has something to do with it.

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  23. And just like the west,there will always be a over abundance of kids coming out of university with acting degrees into a already over crowded industry.

    People seem to forget the western industry/Hollywood is like this too.Where I'm from getting a job(even outside Hollywood) with with a degree in art would be a miracle.

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  24. Lee Joon MBLAQ
    Seungho MBLAQ

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    1. Lee Joon is a good actor, he became Singer to be an actor and Seungho the same he didn't even was a singer Rain 'forced' him to audition
      But we got Thunder he's appearing in a new drama with that Kara girl... I don't think he can do well, I hope he does ..

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  25. don't see an issue as long as the acting is good. I'm sure aspiring singers would get unsettled if a slew of actor/actresses started slaying the music scene whether they were actually good singers or not.

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  26. The value of degrees decreasing and difficulty of getting a job nowadays is one of the many reasons why I decided to opt for military service instead :3


    Gives the practical skills, know-how for future civilian jobs as well as financial security/stability early on - plus it funds your education if you desire to continue it during service.

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  27. In terms of ratings?Yes luck definitely does.


    If the two dramas your going up against are shitty while yours is medium to good your going to have a lot better ratings.


    Luck plays a part in everything,from the filming to the broadcasting.

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  28. Ehh luck is nothing but a word. It's talent and the awesomeness of the plot line aside from major media play and marketing strategy

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  29. I know Sohee and Dasom wanted to be actresses but then wound up idols.

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  30. 4. [+48, -16] Honestly, there are just as many actors that suck at acting... It's just that idols get hated on because of their image and the ease at which they land roles.

    I agree with this one.
    and dear knetizens, calling Suzy "elephant" is really not cool. 40 people need to check their mirror first.

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  31. Whoa, the comments are actually constructive criticisms lol. I agree with a lot the comments. Casting idols are fine, as long as they can act.


    I feel like writers/producers/directors think that the popularity of an idol can save a whole drama -_- I also feel like they're putting half the effort on their plots/scripts b/c they keep relying on idols' popularity. It's really nothing more than media play -_- They should definitely put more effort in their casting process. Lately, the dramas that I've really liked have nugu actors/actresses in them.

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  32. At least it's nicer than calling her a 'fat whore'.

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  33. We're talking about Korean industry though. No one said Western industry is different. At least there aren't idols taking tons of spots in dramas.

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  34. I believe that they shouldn't totally discredit idol/singer actors/actresses. Give them some minor roles and have them work their way up like every other actor/actresses.There are quite a lot of actors and actresses that are even worse than these idols/singers like Yeon Hee, Han Gain, Song Seung Hoon and etc. The idols/singers have a chance to improve as shown by Yoochun and Seunggi. However allowing idol/singer actors/actresses to take on lead roles solely for their ability to sell well is absurd.

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  35. From SM: Yoona, Sulli and Siwon all débuted as actresses and actor before they were singer.

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  36. most known rookie actors are under management companies

    the one complaining might be the totally nugu rookie actors

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  37. .~: Pretty Plastic Boom :~.March 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    I was saying theoretically, not that all people are "plastic and fantastic baby"...besides, I think it's pretty much a common known fact that about what...1 in 5 korean girls have actually underwent some type of cosmetic surgery? Not that I care, I mean if you wanna fix something to be cute do you....not my business. As long as you have talent, I could care less. It's when people who have NO talent whatsoever and get work done to only become the most known member of their respective group all for what? Just a face when it's not truly their own? When I talk about a group being entirely talented, I meant those each roles, not that they ALL can do ALL three. Like the perfect music group imo is Brown Eyed Girls....majority of the group can sing and sing very well...and you also have one of K-pop's BEST female rappers.

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  38. I really miss drama at era 2000-2003, where they actually use the actor, not idol. Look the popularity of Autumn in My Heart, Winter Sonata, Stairway of Heaven. Among the idol I only agree with Yoochun he has best acting among the others. Idol should know themselves with their acting skills, they would not be embarrassed to see themselves acting on TV?

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  39. i dont think the probleme is actor or idol the probleme that the prodoceur's give the lead role to an idole i think you can use idols but don't give them a lead role that's way they can acte and improve ther skills by the time and give the rokie actor's chanse to and as a fan if any of my idols just participat in small role i will be happy

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  40. A said, ..." I auditioned for a management agency in the past and they asked me, 'How about you sing first and then go into acting once you earn popularity. It's an easier option.' ...



    and That's why the music scene is being ruined too. Some think it is only actors problem but even singers are having it hard when actors, models and whoever debut as singers to have their dreams easier to get.
    I'm glad this time Knetizens are standing in the middle. Not all of them bashing idols not all of them siding with actors. This after all, companies fault for not putting things in the right places.

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  41. 'How about you sing first and then go into acting once you earn popularity. It's an easier option



    This is so true! There are some idols who aren't just in it for singing and dancing, but taking the easy route to acting, or fame or whatever.

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  42. eunjung was one of them
    kibum joined SM in order to be an actor, he never really care about suju in the first place

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  43. yup, even most rookie actors sucks in acting except for few outstanding ones

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  44. I am sorry i didnt mean to sound rude, yes i agree with you it is sad when they have no talent and then do plastic surgery but oh well, their life its gonna affect them not me. sad but true. and yes BEG is awesome.

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  45. There are though.

    Look at the family background of most actors or their management companies.Its exactly the same.

    Hollywood has some terrible actors taking spots too.I really don't see how you could say otherwise.

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  46. Lee Joon trained under FNC Ent back then in order to become an actor, that's his original dream

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  47. Siwon and Sulli both started acting before becoming idols.
    The twins, Kwangmin, Youngmin & fellow member Minwoo from Boyfriend all were child actors.
    Ricky from Teen Top.

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  48. Yoochun's acting sucks at first, he improved as he keep acting in dramas

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  49. i know hongki wants to be both singer and actor
    he start singing because the PD in one of the drama he starred back when he's a child actor complimented his singing and encourage him to try singing
    his desire to act is so big that he can't choose which one he love more between the two

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  50. I know Sohee, Eunjung, and Jiyeon were training as actresses before being put in their groups.

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  51. 10. [+18, -2] I think it's okay to use idols, as long as they're talented and they go through the same audition process as anyone else. There are actors who suck at acting as well, you know...

    I agree on this. Just hire those that are good at acting whether they're an idol or an actual actor, don't just hire an idol because you know their fans will watch it and if the drama must have an actor just stick them with a minor role like Hyomin had in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho.

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  52. "luck is nothing but a word"

    I don't know where to start on how stupid that sentence is.Things are giving words to define them,otherwise we would just have a lot of things.

    Arguing that luck plays no part in the success of a drama is fallacious.

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  53. 2. [+167, -71] It's easy to export it overseas if they use idols... There were even rumors of Dr. Jin selling out overseas because of Jaejoong being in it.



    its not a rumor...it was sold to a few countries, just because there was jaejoong on it, it was a bad an ridiculous drama, but with a powerful idol around asia, they can sell bad material at good prices...
    the "hate" souldn't be always to idols, should be to bad actors who happens to be handsome/pretty and get popular because of their looks.

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  54. yep he mentioned it before.

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  55. where is luck in success then? tell me more

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  56. Peolpes won't complain if the idols actor can act properly. But some of producer pick some idols can't act in their drama. That's the problem is.

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  57. Why Korean netizen always against Suzy's acting? I think she is ok, she is still young anyway, still has lots more time to improve. The worst idol actress I think it's Yoona from SNSD, it's ok for her to get just supporting role if she wants to act, but being lead actress is too much. SM sure spent lots of money to get Yoona as lead actress.

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  58. [+48, -16] Honestly, there are just as many actors that suck at acting... It's just that idols get hated on because of their image and the ease at which they land roles.

    [+18, -2] I think it's okay to use idols, as long as they're talented and they go through the same audition process as anyone else. There are actors who suck at acting as well, you know...



    Wow...such a relieve reading this..glad there were still some who think with an open mind...

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  59. [+48, -16] Honestly, there are just as many actors that suck at acting... It's just that idols get hated on because of their image and the ease at which they land roles.



    This hit the nail on the head.

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  60. Auw..so no wonder he and Yong Hwa were close even before they became a celebrity..Didn't know Lee Joon was under FNC before,,,

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  61. "And there are plenty of actors who don't have any skills, but still, leave the acting up to the actors..."

    rofl

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  62. imagine if 3 really good dramas are up against the same slot. one is bound to have poor ratings and places last in the broadcast slot. that is called bad luck.


    on another note. not all actors and actresses out there are extremely good at acting, some are shitty. but they got themselves a really good character role and an awesome drama plotline to back them up. which leads them to popularity. that is good luck.


    while some actors/actresses out there who are deemed as amazing can also have failed dramas.


    ive seen many cases like that.

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  63. yup, he's a trainee sunbae to Yonghwa, he's there in FNC before Yonghwa even joined as a trainee, among the first FNC trainee
    ftisland jaejin's older sister, lee chae won also trained to be an actress under FNC
    both lee joon and chae won attended the same acting school

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  64. why does it matter if they use someone who lists themselves as an actor versus an idol? and what does the popularity of the drama have to do with the acting talents of its cast? have u even seen the acting in Autumn in my heart, winter sonata, and stairway to heaven? do u know shin seung hoon was in autumn in my heart and look at his abysmal acting from then to now. and kim tae hee in stairway to heaven. choi ji woo and kwon sang woo are a hit or miss imo (esp choi ji woo in her early career).

    the only thing the popularity of those dramas proved was that ppl are shallow and will watch the same tired ass plot devices and tropes as long as there are fresher, better looking people cast in it.

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  65. Yoona is quite good in love rain, she improved her acting

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  66. Didn't Mir want to be an actor at first too. He auditioned for Jungle Fish 1 and lost to Kim Soo Hyun. And he said he only got interested in the entertainment industry because his sister.

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  67. I feel terribly bad for the rookie actors as I've been supporting my favorite idols when they act. Actors should act. Singers should sing.

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  68. It brings my thought to Kibum. He started his career as actor but ended up being a part in SJ. Even when he was still active in SJ , it was clear that his desire wasn't singing and dancing but acting. So when he is now more active as actor than a Super Junior member, I am not surprised. He is not called SJ Kibum anymore but actor Kim Kibum.

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  69. Many idols originally wanted to be actors in the first place. So you never know, even without the backing of their companies they could've hit it big as well. I just think many idol actors are busy with their schedules that they don't dedicate enough of their time to nourish their acting. But the acting industry is unfair, Kim Tae Hee and Lee Yeon Hee suck but they still get roles because of their face. It's a cut-throat industry really. Suzy's acting is like on par with those girls yet they are more respected because they were originally actresses. That's also bullshit. If they do well, they do well. But I really hope producers etc. give roles to other rookie actors as well, you never know how big they may become if they don't give them a try.

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  70. I just don't get why Lee Seunggi gets the hate. :/ I honestly think he's a really decent actor with a lot of potential.

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  71. Oh, well that clearly makes everything okay. :/

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  72. Last response,not sure if genuinely stupid.

    Success;as in to achieve a goal.

    My goal is to roll a 6 on a dice.

    I could throw the dice once and get a 6 or it could take me 100 throws.

    I succeed my goal with 1 throw,luck.

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  73. What about people like Will Smith, who started out in music but ended up with a huge acting career? I don't think there should be boundaries, I just think producers should be more focused on hiring people with talent; whether tey be an idol or a rookie actor.

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  74. DARA NEEDS TO ACT ASAP

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  75. idols are a part of different group. i don't understand why i-fans cannot get over this concept. they are manufactured. like disney stars. not even. some disney stars are well rounded.
    anyways the point i am trying to make they are not musicians, or artists.

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  76. [+23, -18] You have to admit that Yoochun, UEE, Suzy, or Lee Seung Gi
    are all worse than professional actors. They're just pushing forward
    with their fandom.



    this pretty much, idols always ruin a good drama

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  77. Personally, I feel like the cloned copies of the plotlines are the reason why K-dramas as a whole will be stuck in a box, much like K-pop itself.


    It's as if they have absolutely no intent on going further and doesn't help that the live-shoot system makes it even more difficult to do so.

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  78. "... i don't understand why i-fans cannot get over this concept..."
    Actually, it's blatantly obvious to me that idols are more comparable to Disney stars... no where in my comment did I say otherwise. The point I was trying to make was that they are in the music industry.

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  79. Dara is more beautiful than any actress or human

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  80. Dara is the best

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  81. i know dara is so more beautiful better dancer and has better cfs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCCl2qtinU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUMgyN4z9oI

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  82. You need to stop now.

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  83. Idols lifetime is not that long especially with many idols group popping up every 3mths. That's why they need to branch out into acting, variety, djs, mcs, etc.


    They can't rely on their music for so long cause they aren't that good to begin with. They can only sell their songs to their fandom and once their fandom dwindle or jump to other idols, they are finish.

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  84. your really jealous of Goddess Dara

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  85. I don't think this is entirely the same with Kibum. Initially, Super Junior was going to be a one time thing. But Super Junior surprisingly garnered more popularity than expected and stopped being a rotational group. Super Junior wasn't meant to last. It was going to be a one time gig for Kibum and then he would move on. That didn't happen.

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  86. Dara does everything

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  87. Dara can act dance sing and is more beautiful than you

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  88. what's wrong with Seung Gi ? I think he was a good actor even back when he was in Seven Princess, he worked his way up like all other actor and improves in each project. I think he's one of an exception of singer turns actor.

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  89. Dara is the best female rapper

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  90. sorrry netizen even song seung heon a veteran actor still suck untill now, i have a headaches seeing him in dr.jin but still i know people will say at last he is better then most idol actor but then watch dr.jin..god...plz there are idol actor there but even they are better then him...

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  91. Don't quit your day job.

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  92. Me too, he's one of the actors that make me so anticipate for his next acting project the most. Well, sometimes I wish he would act more rather than sing, even though I love his singing as much :))

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  93. Auw..thanks for the info...I'm a fan of Yong Hwa and got to like Lee Joon too through Yong Hwa. Got to watch a vid of them especially Lee Joon saying how they were close but I didn't have any idea how they became close since both were from different agencies..Just enjoying their bromance... :)

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  94. Shes beautiful and is a better singer than ailee lee hi bom taeyeon

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  95. finally knetizens with reasonable comments it's not that all idols are bad actors, it's just the idols who can't act are acting.

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  96. I think you

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  97. Dara will last till she dies

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  98. she did why do you think she's popular in the philippines it's one thing to be troll but another thing to be a troll who knows nothing about there idols background go back to school.

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  99. Well, in my opinion, rather than bash Idols or sucked-but-still-popular actors/ actresses, how about fighting for fair and square auditions? Those who are good enough would be accepted for the role? Well, but the world is not always fair so I think the one we should bash is those PD that cast them, it's their decision after all :))

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  100. no in korea

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  101. The thing is many people choose to watch pretty faces instead, LOL

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  102. DARA IS DATING YANG HYUN SUK!!!!!!!!

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  103. you never said that, if you wanted her to act in korea you could have said so ;-p

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  104. well you are nice

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  105. But at least in Hollywood they separate acting idols with pro-actors, those idols are for Disney channel teen series, pro-actors for growth-up series in CW. Not messing up together.

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  106. Dara is better singer than ailee bom hyorin taeyeon davichi lee hi

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  107. I enjoy Yoochun and LSG acting..I think they are pretty good and showing improvement.

    The problem is most of idol actors are suck so netizen stereotype thinking all idol actors are like that. Which is wrong.

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  108. hes got arrested 5 times

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  109. that would mean no matter how much a casting director wants a person or how much a person visually fits the character they are not allowed to pick said actor/person until auditioning a good amount of people.
    Don't get me started on "real" actors who roles just because of how successful they were in previous roles and there name.
    CD/PD's are allowed to be as biased as they want since at the end of the day they are picking/casting idols/people who are perfect for the role and not necessarily acting, which happens all the time

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  110. I dont like anyone acting except for the Goddess D

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  111. no she was bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddd

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  112. I think Suzy acts very stiff, I watched all of her works, well not because of her, it's because actors. Most of the time her face muscles weren't moving at all & she read the lines like reading straight from a book, no emotion at all. She improves a very little in Introduction of architecture but though, i dont think she ready for lead roles with different level of emotion yet

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  113. I can understand the concern, but somehow I feel that netizen actually hates idol actor not because their acting, but butthurt with how easy they get offers from producers. No matter how good these idol actors are (for ex LSG, Yoochun, TOP) they are forever being label as "Idol turn actor who successful bcos their big fandom" which may partly true, but please credit their hard works. Not all idols actor are bad after all

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  114. True, and Seung gI isn't even an Idol, I don't know why he's mentioned here. Those who improve should be given credits for. Even the greatest actors/ actresses have their rookie days.

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  115. DARA IS BETTER THAN 2NE1

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  116. Boyfriend's leader Donghyun had a few parts here and there too as an actor before he debuted as a singer.

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  117. Wow, what are they expect? To put this "nugu" actors in the roles that idols own? Nobody would watch it tbh. Idol getting bashed, but they still take viewers attentions. And yes, the dramas, or films will be able to be sold overseas if idol's in it. That's how it's work.

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  118. True this, I think those who are actually ready to act should be given the roles for big & long projects. Improving during acting in a drama/ movie is like practicing to sing on the big stage, that's so wrong :)). I remember reading Glass Mask manga and knew how much hardship an actor/ actress have to go through to represent a role in each of their project. A film/ drama is a performing art work after all.

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  119. really? I don't see any improvement at all. I stopped watching love rain because her acting sucks. she will never improve unless become realistic to give her an objective comment. but my, it was really horrible.

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  120. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCCl2qtinU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUMgyN4z9oI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZYDMBOkwLo

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  121. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZYDMBOkwLo

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  122. IU brings more money for the drama = the entire staff for the drama/tv station/companies make more money to feed their families. Rookie actors need to deal with LIFE. Don't blame other for your missfortune.

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  123. Not all idol actors are bad, for me LSG also Park Yoochun are the best among their peers. They are good, no need to hate them so much dear netizen. Some real actors also cannot act, look at Song Seung Hun KTH or Ga in -_-

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  124. Agree. Business is business after all

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  125. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH DARA IS A BUNNY

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  126. Yes, if idol singer acting was good there is no problem about them acting in a drama. But sadly most of them acting wasn't good but only have popularity. Some really can act(but not many), but some are just using their popularity. Many producers are also making use of their to attract more fans but most of the fans are using internet to watch the drama. And i see most of those successful drama was really those using actor or actress and no idol at all. I think only boy over flower and high dream got high rating, others were really not very good.
    People can say: if idol singer can go act, then why don't actor go sing? Yes they can, but they most of them i believe not interested in sing or they know they cant sing so they didn't. I saw many want to become an actor rather than idol, but cant so they become a idol. we rarely see people want to be singer, and went to become an actor to become a singer. Even if an actor want to sing, they can choose to sing an ost or single which not require a long period of time. But those historical/traditional type of Korea drama take a long time to produce unless they are doing mini drama or idol drama than is alright. And most of the time it was housewife who are watching those drama in Korea, most of them are looking at the plot and the skill of the actor/actress instead of their look. Many drama using idols because they can sell it oversea more easily.
    Sorry for my poor english

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  127. I think it's not bias but rather suggestions, esp from big idol companies. Of course the PD will get some kind of benefits for casting idols of these big companies, plus somehow good exporting benefit too.

    BTW, You think everybody with any visual look can get in the audition? Of course there should be a limits for those who are visually look like the characters, and then the audition happens to find the best that can act. That's why I said the final decision maker & the one who we should blame is the PD.

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  128. Why can't Suzy fan talk about her acting skill without bring another idol into it.

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  129. That person think that Yoona improved while you don't think she did. It all based on opinions.

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  130. I'm must be the only few people who enjoyed Suzy in BIG. I thought she portrayed a crazy and annoying girl really well. I almost hate her because of that. Like she's really annoying. Luckily i stop watching that drama half way because the story sucks so much.Even Gong Yoo can't save it.


    Anyway,there's a lot of A-list actors who are as bad as this rookie idol but they get away with it. It's really unfair. I don't know why idols get the blame. This so called A list actors are also at fault taking the roles from the talented one. Blame them too.

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  131. this bish cant act for the soo man's sake

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  132. I don't care if they're good or not. Every one should be given a chance to prove themselves. It really breaks my heart to read this :(
    When I first started watching Kdramas, I always asked why they were always using the same actors (especially in cases like when it's the same screen writer for a project and they choose only actors they're familiar with; it's not bad per say, but still, you know); From what I see, the only way to become a successful actor besides looks and idols is by starting out as a child.


    I feel so disheartened because I want the all the kids in projects like School to get the same chance (especially since actors of today started out in school too) because they deserve it

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  133. I think the amount of talented rookie actors that are under the conditions stated in the article is a measure of how immature the film industry is. It's understandable that using idols will gain viewers as opposed to using new faces. Unfortunately it seems that the industry is leaning towards this option a bit too much. I'm not asking them to be philanthropist but at least give these undiscovered talents a chance. They are professionals. How can they not see someone is talented even by observing their minor roles? It will take a long time for me to explain but to summarize things, if this goes on, the industry will be redundant and there would not be any development.

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  134. Lol. I find all the replies to your comment very funny.

    From this comment and the replies that followed, we can concluded that judging acting skills is very subjective and based on opinions.

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  135. It's happening rite now, look at So Ji Sub, Joo Won, Han Hyo Joo, lee jun ki, they just release albums, sang in OST, doing duet with other singers as well.

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  136. 9. [+19, -0] It's worth getting the hate and using idols because they earn a fanbase, export rights, investments, etc... And there are plenty of actors who don't have any skills, but still, leave the acting up to the actors...

    ----> it doesn't make much sense if any. Especially the 2nd sentence. That "still" is questionable. Actually it is an answer for how ignorant, full of hate and jealousy netizens are. There is no reason to hate on them just because they come from idol background. How can they say those like YC and LSG are all worse than professional actors? There are professional actors that suck even after all those years of experience, and there are many rookie actors that suck as much as sucky idol actors. And can I ask u netizens do you even know whether an actor actually comes from a legit acting background, or they also come from another field first but not idol, like they are models first (which i think 60% actors are), or they got picked by company audition for acting, or they got choose because they caught producer's attention? Most of them, after decided to become actor, enrolled for school of acting, they did not have the basis foundation before that like any one else, so how can u know whether rookie actor is professional or not? And if you are complaining about idol actors having main role, then what do you want? u think it is better for those rookie actors to land such roles instead? (those roles that are only 20-30 years old) There is not difference into that too.





    I dunno about you, but for me someone like Yoochun, who keeps being bashed by netizens because he is an idol, showed a lot of potential even in his first drama, and so far, until now, he has been choosing difficult and different roles and basically nailed them all despite not having stellar rating dramas or sth For me, there are many young actors that are not as good, and not as courage because they don't dare to take risk. Someone like him deserves to be appreciated not to be bashed and taken down to the same level as sucky actors or idol actors. Same with LSG, despite not taking different roles, but he is also way better than some actors and many rookie actors out there. Who cares about how many main roles they have taken if they can deliver in their works and even make much money for producer?

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  137. Eunjung true - she was already an actress though. Ever since she was young.. she actually debuted in the entertainment industry (acting) in 1994 and her singing career in 2009. It's such a shame that she was transferred to that shithole-of-a-company CCM. Once in MNET Media, but was sent off to some lame ass company run by some idiot.

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  138. jae and chun have power to sell in overseas, n i believe they are better than other idols who turn into actor.. so no wonder in every drama that they acted they got lots of awards..

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  139. Regarding that JaeJoong comment that it's because of him that all of Asia will fight for the export right:


    IT IS TRUE


    MUAHAHAHAHA


    XDDD

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  140. wow Im honestly surprised at how positive the responses are

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  141. jeez, nobody talk about dara, I've read almost all your comments in this article alone, I think you need to stop. thank you.

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  142. I'm actually surprised at the maturity of these netizens and their sane thinking. I agree with a few. I wonder if these are actual adults.

    I expected massive hate spillage, lol.

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  143. Life is not a piece of cake dear rookie actors...! Entertainment industry is not about make people wish come true. They use idols because they brings more money for the drama!! AND lot of them are good at acting! I really like UEE acting whatever netizens say. (i didn't saw others in dramas so i'm not sure about others)

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  144. Dara is the best.

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  145. I think Eunjung can act. Too bad she's in that company.

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  146. DaSom wanted to be an actress but Starship put her on Sistar....

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  147. List of actors who were forced to be idols??
    Lee Joon (MBLAQ)
    Sohee (Wonder Girls )
    Dasom Sistar
    SeungHo MBLAQ
    Hongbin Vixx
    who else???

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  148. True... I admit I watched it for JaeJoong. IMO they were damn lucky they had him because the two lead actors and the script sucked.

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  149. Dara is a goddess

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  150. Eunjung is a fake GO GODDESS BUNNY DARA

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  151. STOP HATING DARA

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  152. i think Dara is a bunny goddess

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  153. i think you are weird

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  154. HYOMIN IS PLASTIIC AND BULLIES DARA

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  155. Hah, he really doesn't get much hate. They are complaining about singer/idol actors so he'll be mentioned. In other posts they have praised his acting in TK2H.

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  156. SUZY HAS NO RIGHT TO BE IN A COMPANY ONLY DARA

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  157. dARA IS gonna dance

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  158. you must stop dara is queen of humans

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  159. I kinda feel for these rookie actors. It's hard enough to be given a chance to star in a drama with the competition from other actors and now even idols want a share of their meagre pie. Le sigh....

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  160. Seriously... CCM has a reputation for screwing up the careers of their artists and former artists. Look what happened to Nam Gyuri.

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  161. That's how he landed his role in Ninja Assassin. :) Rain took him in as a trainee and when he found out that Joon was actually a pretty good actor, resembled him, and had the skill and strength to pull of martial arts moves, he got the part.


    The movie was released the same year MBLAQ debuted, but it was in production at least a year before that.

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  162. The idols that are bad at acting and still try not 1 but 2, 3 times and sometimes with leading roles. I think those idol-actors are giving a bad name and reputation in general. It's for them idol-actors are so hated in Korea.

    The korean netizens also blame the most successful idols like LSG, Yoochun and UEE because thanks to them, more idols feel encouraged to look for success and popularity debuting in dramas, even when many of them lack at acting.

    Right now, seems like a "Boom" that more and more idols debut in dramas. But I think their agencies and the idols themself must be more responsible on this, they shouldn't allow to debut bad actors..like for example: Yunho ( I know there are more, but I'm taking him as an example just like the article and because i watched his acting). Everyone knows that he was awful in HTTG and Poseidon, but he still obtained an important role in Yawang, how is that possible?? It's clear they used him because TVXQ is popular in Japan and overseas. I'm currently watching Yawang because I like Kwon Sang Woo, and honestly Yunho's acting was so bad, I know it's bad to say it, but i want to be honest here.. I was thankful they killed his character :/.. His fans are probably happy because he improved from HTTG mess.. which i found so pitiable, that they comfort with just that, but well they are fangirls after all.

    Finally, I wan to say that as a drama lover that watched several asian dramas, I noticed In Japan Idol-actors are more accepted and respected. But also Japanese idol-actors are good actually. If Korean idols want to obtain the same results. They must choose only the best actors of their army.

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  163. I feel bad for them since they're deemed "useless" in the group by fans when they didn't really wanted to be in a girl group in the first place.

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  164. It's not for hating but Song Seung Hoon, Han Ga In and Kim Tae Hee are all veteran actors but they aren't good.. their popularity it's mostly because their appearance. So IA, there are idol-actors better than them,


    The problem is that most Idol-actors probably think they only need to look handsome or pretty to be accepted as an actor/actress just as these veteran actors i just mentioned, but actually they will receive more criticism by korean netizens, so they really need to work harder and show at least potential in their first try and big steps of improvements.

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  165. i admit i watch it for jaejoong...and the lead actor and actress is boring me...i just hope it does well in japan...coz this is an adaptation from a manga or something in japan...and will be aired on may

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  166. he is popular internationally..what do u expect...i heard dr jin was sold to 29 countries...

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  167. for information SSH is a very popular hallyu star after the success of autumn in my heart. So it is not all about jaejong, but honestly jaejong is not relevant in korea. WTH 29 countries ? the drama flop in korea how come it sell over to 29 countries ? delusional fangirl. I advise to you please go back check you recource

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  168. The problem is that 99% of idols are not on par with average actors/actresses. In general idol actors are so much worse than the average actors. Look at Yoon Eun Hye; she's the most successful actress-turned idol but she still can't act that well despite years of experience.

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  169. i said i heard..im not sure if its true..LOL..try reading properly...his last drama is also popular overseas...that is protect the boss...i would say..that jaejoong is mostly part of that success...flopping in korea doesnt mean flopping overseas..LOL..btw..that drama is not even considered a flop since it has double digit ratings..

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  170. true, I watched sungkyunkwan scandal because I love him but the first episodes it was hard to watch but he improved really fast and by the end of the drama he was good, not perfect but it was better

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  171. it's weekend drama. Not prime time drama.

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  172. Yoon Eun Hye is like typecast actress. That why we don't see her true potential. I am glad she doing i miss you which is different from her character before this.

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  173. they are good taking advantage of opportunities. but at least, they should practice their acting before act on a drama as a main character...

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  174. 4. [+48, -16] Honestly, there are just as many actors that suck at acting... It's just that idols get hated on because of their image and the ease at which they land roles.

    is more easy hate idols than hate actors who nobody knows XD

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  175. I saw her in a movie, she was really young (her rol was te sister of the female lead) but, in my opinion, she did a good job.

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  176. ssh is an actor right? But look a his act, sooo bad! and u said jj not relevant in korea? Haha who r u? R u live in korea? Haters always gonna hate! Pathetic indeec

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  177. yes. my comment is not about SSH acting. I said about the star power and SSH have it. its true jaejong not relevant in korea but he popular in japan

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  178. i believe hyomin and jiyeon too (wanting to be actress with barely any experience though) and yeah,eunjung hereself i believe def said she wanted to be an actress. but you know, kks.

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  179. I still can't forgive and forget Sherlock got beaten by Rooftop Prince.

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  180. I feel sorry for these rookies but honestly if they were really good at acting they would have made it. While It is easier for idols to get roles they will never get the fans and netizens favor if they can't act. Plus these rookies should know that going into acting is hard.. Whether its Hollywood, hallyu etc.. It's all about connections.

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  181. ssh popular?? Hahaa, i just know his name after his drama with jae, people bashed ssh bcoz of his acting while he is an actor himself, if ssh u called popular then how about jae?? He did solo concert in korea this year with 17,000 people come, while in 2011 jyj made a concert 2 days in korea with 80,000 people come.. Thats not include his popularity in overseas n japan... Think bfore u speak! What u called star popular is nothing compare with what jae has

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  182. WTF is up with this site!!!?

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  183. "3. [+30, -4] Suzy's going to be in another historical drama... and I
    truly wonder whether producers see anything in Suzy's acting. I can
    never understand them."

    I agree.
    Suzy is not a good actress. She's only an eye-candy in dramas/movie.
    Her acting sucks..
    I pity those rookie actresses who probably have more skills in acting and lost from Suzy

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  184. Eunjung is even better in acting than singing, imo
    She should've just become an actress, pursuing her dream

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  185. wow rly?? then how come yoona and siwon still suck @ acting???

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  186. A platypus walks into a bar. They are the only mammals with the ability to lay an egg.

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  187. umm what's wrong with Yoochun's acting? I love his acting...

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  189. When SNSD's Yuri auditioned for her first pre-debut CF...she had to act to get it

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhrMDtN4zBQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7-kXrSN0M

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