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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Trainees have a 0.1% chance of debuting


Another one of those articles that I was interested in but no one cared about lol T_T...

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Article: Celebrity trainees... less than 0.1% chance of debut.. What are their futures?

Source:
E-Daily via Naver

With the public's attention focused on Park Shi Hoo and his sexual assault case, people have increasingly become more interested in the lives of celebrity trainees.

The woman who filed the lawsuit against Park Shi Hoo is currently a trainee herself and she's not the only one to have been sexually assaulted, as it was only just recently that another company CEO was arrested for sexually assaulting his own trainees.

'K', a 38 year old woman working in the entertainment industry, currently faces a dilemma regarding the future of her 9 year old daughter. Perhaps due to her daughter's beauty, the people around her are often suggesting how easy it would be for her to become a trainee considering that she works in the industry herself.

Although she considered the idea, she's now  not so sure. "I know that not all trainees are faced with such problems, but to start, the chance of debuting is already so low, and I don't want to expose my daughter to the potential of such crimes on top of that. Even if there's only a 1% chance that trainees are at risk for sexual assault, that 1% turns into 100% once it becomes your family member who's involved."

In the current generation, there are a million trainees with the same dream. Last year, there were 50 new idol group debuts, each with an average number of five members. That means only 250 people made the cut. Even when including the statistics of rookie actors and solo singer debuts, the chance of debuting is less than 0.1%.

The problem of the situation lies in the fact that there is no security system for the trainees who aren't able to debut. 2AM's Jo Kwon is largely regarded as a 'legendary trainee', having trained for over 10 years before finally making his own debut, but for the rest of the trainees in the current market, their futures seem dark.

Trainees range in age from junior high school students to people in their early 20s. Most are still students and thus choose to train and attend school at the same time. AOA's Seolhyun, currently a high school student, would attend class and then train at her company starting after school to the very next morning at 7~8 a.m.

FNC Entertainment's rookie development rep said, "About 3 out of 10 trainees are in the top 20% of their studies but the rest of them are usually more focused on succeeding as a celebrity so they rehearse more than they study."

For those young enough to switch paths before college, there's still a chance that they can study in a different area and secure a future for themselves. Such is the example set by Jang Ha Jin, who entered SM as a trainee in 6th grade and trained until her third year in junior high school. Although she was included in the SNSD line-up, she quit because she wanted to study more and is now a student at KAIST.

Other trainees who lose their chance to debut will usually continue chasing their dreams by moving to a different agency for another opportunity. Unfortunately, as time passes, the pressure builds. Once you reach your mid-20s, it's near impossible to hope for a debut.

Those who are considered 'too old' will then switch paths to become vocal or dance trainers or end up in other broadcasting jobs like home shopping channel hosts.

One company representative said, "I have seen a minority of trainees give up their training and enter adult entertainment because purely to make ends meet. It's impossible for companies to ensure that each of their trainees are able to live proper, healthy lives. It's up to them in the end because it was a choice they made, but there definitely needs to be a system set up so that they're not left completely in the dust when plans foil."

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"The industry blows so much hope into these kids with all the audition shows... and now this is what they come out with?"

"Kids should learn composing and writing lyrics instead of trying to become singers... You make a lot more money that way."

"A dose of reality for the students of today... Is it worth the gamble to risk your futures for that 0.1% chance? How are they going to apply singing and dancing to the real world? By becoming karaoke girls?"

"Well, it was their choice to give up studying to become singers so they'll figure out a way if it doesn't work."

"I find it hard to believe that there are really a million trainees at the moment... That means 1 out of 10 teens are a trainee. I bet the number also includes people who make passing statements about wishing to become a trainee but aren't actually..."

"Even the 70-80% who do make it into college have a difficult time finding jobs in the real world.."

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54 comments:

  1. all i can say is, thank you for translating this, netizenbuzz.

    this is why i come to netizenbuzz instead all of those "kpop news sites"

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  2. Hey NB, actually I think this kind of article is pretty interesting. :)

    This is not a good idea to be a trainee nowadays... Why do parents still encourage them? They shouldn't. They don't really show how bad it is behind the cameras, most of teenagers think that be an idol is the best thing ever, and then... Their parents expect too much from them, some of them want to prove their family they can be something, if they don't have chances in any other area (I don't know, I'm just guessing).

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    1. Most parents don't encourage their kids to pursue the idol life.
      You can hear the stories of the idols before they debuted . Most of them will say that their parents didn't support them etc etc..

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  3. I don't see anything bad about being a trainee as long as you have reasonable expectations and don't give up school for the slight chance at being an idol. I also think once you reach a certain point and nothing has happened you should probably give up and move on. It's not good to waste your youth training for a job that pays nothing and teaches you no real world skills. If I were a parent I probably wouldn't encourage my child to be a trainee though since most kids don't have the maturity to realize they are wasting their time for such a small chance.

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  4. All agencies should have the good-grade-or-get-kicked-out-system. The only company ive heard doing that is JYP.
    I guess they realized that with the low chances of succeeding as a singer nowadays, kids NEED a good educational background to safe net them.

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  5. "Kids should learn composing and writing lyrics instead of trying to become singers... You make a lot more money that way."



    Yes. You don't even have to know how to sing to earn money in this field because the demand for songs is high especially when you got groups debuting left and right on top of established groups. Now it would be a great help to have some type of a musical background (even if it's playing an instrument in a band).

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  6. I think Cube does too. Unless I'm recalling incorrectly, Yoseob shared how at one point during the training period, he almost didn't make it based on their monthly grading system or something. Seems likely that YG might have some evaluation in place too...

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  7. The amount of rookie groups is scary nowadays. I know the kids are doing it because they want to follow their dreams, but the companies only see them as money. I think articles like this are a good reality check and all trainees should be aware of this before they decide to give up their education.

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  8. Correction: there were more than 80 debuts last year.

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  9. This is a good article.

    'I have seen a minority of trainees give up their training and enter adult entertainment because purely to make ends meet."---

    This is so true for everywhere to be honest. There are quite a few suspected washed up stars in Hollywood that have begun to prostitute themselves out, because they have no more options aka Lindsay Lohan. Once the industry is done with you they leave you to your own devices. Which is sad tbh.

    I wished they stopped pushing out 10 new groups everyday. The market is too saturated for any sort of lasting success for rookies right now. People are getting tired which causes them to dismiss a lot of good acts. This is why, so many random new groups are debuting in Japan, in hopes of some success, yet the Hallyu idol wave is slowly diminishing.There are a lot of talented groups like SPICA or Crayon Pop that get lost in the sea due to this influx. These idols/trainees slave away and they are rewarded with nothing. If they didn't study or learn a technical skill, where else will they get quick money, but the sex industry.

    To me personally, the idol/trainee life doesn't seem worth it at all. Yeah, you might be apart of the 1% that hits it big, but you are still under strict restrictions that you have to abide by to continue to survive in that industry. Also, I feel like the majority of the big idols are still being underpaid for their work and their working conditions are still not always stellar. Also, some of these people are left with no sense of real world/basic life training, this goes for actors too. There are way too many stories of idols/entertainers that have no idea what financial responsibility is or how to open a chequing account, etc... As well, some of these trainees are left in bad positions that force them to do explicit things for people in power in order to reach their dreams. Ugh, there is no safe guard for them anywhere.

    Also, I heard that getting into university in Skorea, is getting harder, but there still really needs to be promotion of alternative options or some form of support for these kids or have some kind of minimum requirement for all these companies, in order to stop people from wasting their lives.

    /ramble

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  10. That's a sexy DP you have there. ;D I want some rice cakes too.

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  11. This part is so sad:
    "AOA's Seolhyun, currently a high school student, would attend class and
    then train at her company starting after school to the very next morning
    at 7~8 a.m"


    Let's say she goes to school later, at 11 am. That's still around 4 hours of sleep only :(

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  12. My special homemade rice cakes! *stuffs your face* ;D

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  13. people who are trainees really should consider composing as a back up plan you never know. what gets you on top is beauty and talent COMBINED. beauty is by luck cause no one really take interest in rookies now days cause there is seriosuly waaaaay to much now. Even people with talent can sometimes be overshawdowed... or just become a producer for a company honestly round 20s.... unless if you are seriosuly so talented . people train for 1-3 years man it used to be 3-7? 8-10 years even.
    btw this is very interesting and my two cents hahaha

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  14. Some male trainees who don't make the cut into debuting as idols end up being managers for the company they trained. Ever wondered why there are certain idol group managers who are strangely too good-looking to be just managers?! It's probably the case for them.

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  15. Like Cube's manager?

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  16. hoooo~ i prefer NB nowadays :)

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  17. Yup. That guy! And at least 2 SM managers: Super Junior's famous "Prince Manager" Junghoon and EXO-K's current manager (and former Super Junior manager) Seunghwan.

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  18. well if they wanna dance on stage, being a strippper isnt bad :D

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  19. Do you do webcam stripping too?

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  20. I remember some YG interview where he said he didn't want Jiyong to disregard school just because he's a trainee so he had to get at least 80% score (whatever that means?) on tests. Sorry it was a long time ago I read this so I don't remember that well but at least for Big Bang I'm pretty certain YG kept sure they'd wouldn't forget about school. Not sure about current trainees, maybe it's still the same.

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  21. i feel like these people just wanted a short cut since becoming a celebrity doesn't require you to go to school/university particularly and be able to have a glamorous and luxurious life. but they forget that's a long and hard path to get there. let's not forget that being a celebrity isn't always a good thing despite the money, you get a lot of pressure from the public and your private life is exposed by the media and of course the crazy schedule. really the parents and the kids themselves should really know this fact very well.

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  22. Yes I do but only for KKS ;D

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  23. If NetizenBuzz posts these type of articles more frequently, i'm sure it will drive off some of the crazy stans. This is the type of article that requires people to think more about their response before they type garbage.

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  24. LOL most of these girl groups can't even sing. How will they compose a song?

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  25. A regular person can be goodlooking you know.

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  26. aren't those pretty much the same reason for any goal someone takes in life. hardly show the struggles to obtain it but paint a pretty end picture. everything has it's risks, I'm kinda glad they let their kids follow their dreams for the most part even if they fail if they don't die they still have a chance to be something.

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  27. It's not different than in Hollywood with thousands, millions trying to make it while working, tho their chances are probably 0.0001% considering how big US industry is. I know it's their dream but the entertainment industry is so unstable with shady politics and low success rate. I'm sure there are plenty of other jobs that can make them happy, there was that article about making it after fail girl group and some member became an anchorwoman and professor.

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  28. a million???as in we're talking about million people here??? wow..
    Hats off to the 0.1% survivor trainees who debuted and congratulation to the destined 0.01% of 0.1% idols who become popular idols. Competition is really tough and idols are not even that glamorous at least for me. Who said they have it the easy way? but really they should carefully evaluate their dreams before going through these mess called entertainment industry.

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  29. "You don't even have to know how to sing to earn money in this field "

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  30. Jo kwon's tho fucking 10 year f that I would just become a doctor or smth

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  31. The traine's convenience ther parents that they will debut and be successful and compare themselves to top groups that parents, notice how well the idols treat there parents and cave. It's extremely common for your parents to pull you out if your a trainee for longer than 2-3 years. Making it any longer means you have very supporting parents.

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  32. NB is at her best when translating this sort of stuff. Articles like this one are the real payoff of this site. Outstanding job.

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  33. You need to be able to sing in order to present your song. Have you even given it any thought? How are you going to teach your song to the demo singer if you can't sing it in tune?

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  34. you write the sheet music and the demo singers sing from that = = there are programs like sibelius that would help you compose digitally without having to pick up a pencil

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  35. Wowww 10 years as a trainee just crazy! Why they keep debuting idol btw!! Kpop now is over crowded with talentless groups who being train more than 3 years and need 10 years more for popular if they debut from low company

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  36. Interesting article. Part of the problem is that it is difficult to switch careers in Korea. In some countries people are free to change careers at any age. It's not uncommon to see students in their 30s, 40s and even older.


    An employer will not look down on you if you've changed careers. It won't be easy, you may have to accept a lower salary and you may sometimes face ageism, but at least it's possible. It is possible in Korea too but difficult and unusual and you won't get much support.


    Maybe the Korean education and employment system should offer more flexibility for people who have not followed the traditional route. A 25-year-old ex trainee should not feel that they have no future.

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  37. GD's dad told him to get an 80 or he was going to pull him out of YG ^^

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  38. well i dont think becoming an idol is a 'stupid' dream. some people are passionate about certain things and would rather do them than something they dont enjoy. i think the trainees who are really passionate about singing and dancing should debut. i dont know if kids becoming idols for the money is true but i hope they are not because so many people are passionate about it not for the money * yonghwa for example* they should not get overshadowed by a few people who are in it for the bucks

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  39. First of all, I self-produce and write songs of my own and even though I mainly play instruments, I'm not a good singer. And even when I do decide to throw vocals on my songs, all I have to do is just put autotune to it. Second of all, SM buys songs from producers who have demo tracks performed by singers. Most producers don't even know how to sing. If anything, most of them know how to play an instrument with a very few knowing how to sing.

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  40. Good article. I do agree that the companies should have some sort of system set up so that some idols don't train forever.

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  41. actually no, there's no need

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  42. one of Shinhwa Eric's manager is a cute guy..

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