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Monday, January 7, 2013

Rain in hot waters after his stay at luxury hotels during service discovered


Rain was found to have stayed at a royal suite room hotel costing $600/night after performing at an event sponsored by the KCTA last year.

The military explained that although they normally pay for off-base lodging (soldiers normally stay at motels), Rain stayed at the hotel because it was sponsored/paid for by the event hosts.

Investigations found several more cases where Rain and other celebrity soldiers either paid for or were sponsored stays at luxury hotels following off-base events.

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Article: Rain discovered to have stayed at a luxury hotel during service... celebrities without military discipline

Source: Sports World via Nate

The first line of this article starts with, "Can Rain call himself a soldier?"

1. [+566, -15] Shouldn't Rain be considered insufficient service like Psy? The celebrities already discharged were let off easy but we need to reenlist the current serving celebrity soldiers. Do they think this is some kind of camp? And if Boom comes out on Strong Heart and talks about his service one more time, I swear to god...

2. [+461, -11] Get rid of celebrity soldiers and treat them the same as any other soldier. Can any of these even wield a gun if we're in war?

3. [+414, -25] Send him to jail or reenlist him. This isn't North Korea.

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Article: Rain stayed at a $600 luxury hotel after service event

Source: Munhwa Ilbo via Nate

1. [+310, -19] Can he really call himself a soldier? It doesn't matter who paid for his hotel. Every single soldier is responsible for serving fairly.

2. [+300, -15] Does the military think that none of the Korean soldiers are rich enough to buy out supplies like these? Everyone needs to be treated fairly and service should be completed equally. While some ba$tard lies sleeping in a hotel room, someone else is sleeping on the floor of the frontline.

3. [+99, -10] This ba$tard is just finding himself in a deeper hole, isn't he. Does he think the army is some kind of extended vacation? Why doesn't he call a prostitute in there and have a good lay while he's at it? Pathetic how the military is crawling to the whims of these celebrities

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56 comments:

  1. I think he needs to at least reenlist for 2 more years, to fix his image..

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  2. lool rain is really digging his own grave now. He should just show his apology by reenlisting himself as a normal soldier. I think it would be the best option for him unless he wants to deal with netizen's comments about him not serving his country properly for the rest of his life ._.

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  3. Wait.. who's making these investigations? Reporters? :/
    I'm kind of suprised that this wasn't all revealed to be under the table type of stuff, but is actually the military itself making excuses for him. There's some kind of shade within the system as a whole, and I think that's what's most irritating.

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  4. Meanwhile Hyun bin is making these guys look like p*ssies...

    hmm...:\

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  5. "Discovered" Yeah sure.

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  6. why don't they just make army service less awful for everyone? north korea's army is full of malnourished midgets. it wouldnt take much to overwhelm them.

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  7. Not really North Korea is one of the few countries with nuclear weapons ,that have not signed the NPT treaty,and they are so full of hate, the only thing that they care about is the war,all their lives are centered on that.-

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  8. Ugh............these kinds of scandals with some celebrities in the army will just leave a bad impression for ALL celebrities who will even enlist in the future =____= Irregardless of if they are treated like regular soldiers or not

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  9. Rain's King Long-sized ego is truly getting the best of him. He needs to get his feeton the group.. pronto! Maybe he should be send to volunteer in some 3rd world country and experience what REAL suffering is like.


    Right now, he's acting like a spoiled brat.

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  10. Seems like being a "bad bad boy" didn't turn out to well. lol

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  11. If he paid to stay at those hotels, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's his own money after all and he can use it however he may like. The sponsored hotel stays are unfair to regular soldiers though..:/
    I don't get why celebrity soldiers have so many events to do..this is time for them to learn how to protect their country..

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  12. I think his image will hit rock bottom if he doesn't reenlist. I think recently in the news there was an article about a Korean celeb that was kicked out of the country for more than 6 years now...

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  13. Not true.
    If it's his own money, that IS a problem. The other soldiers can also use their own money to pay for better lodging if that's allowed.
    I can still get over it if it was sponsored by the event sponsors.

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  14. Well, first of all... he DIDN'T.


    Second of all, one of the commenters made a point saying that there are Korean soldiers who are not celebrities that can afford to stay in luxury hotels as well (not all rich people in Korea are idols, after all) but they aren't allowed to because they're not celebrities.

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  15. Him, Boom, Leeteuk, Heechul, etc. are all pretty much being treated like kings compared to non-celebrity soldiers.


    I mean, come on. A MUSICAL?? The fuck?

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  16. Well, the ones who've finished theirs are still cast in a bad light as well. Especially Boom.

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  17. haha he's already reading scripts for movies to film after he gets out of the army... i guess he either has to lose his image completely or stick through it and reenlist. can't win either way but hopefully he goes with the latter...

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  18. No. North Korea might be run by a bunch of nutters, but they have some dangerous weapons in their arsenal. They're a hostile country, but they haven't outright threatened or attacked other country (aside from a few instances on the border between North and South Korea).


    If you look at CNN's website, there's an article about North Korea being published every week.


    Believe me, people are watching them carefully.

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  19. wow talk about a dick move

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  20. I wonder how many celeb soldiers are scared right now. There is going to be more digging up these kind of stories thanks to Rain.

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  21. Heechul is serving as a public service personnel because he had the metal rods in his leg; he actually cannot be too physical because the amount of pain that comes with that. Not many people seem to know it, but that's the case.

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  22. ikr. they got all defensive because they're the one who give perks to all the celeb soldiers. if not, they can basically said yeah, they did all of that and they broke the military laws.

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  23. He only got himself to blame for this mess.

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  24. korean really hate him now because he date KIM TAE HEE

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    1. Not really. The whole dating scandal is not important to knetizens anymore. It's more of his MILITARY scandal now that k netizens are so pissed with. Conscription in SK is actually quite a tough regime. That's why they are unhappy with the different treatment

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  25. The musical is for the history of South Korea and will have its 40th anniversary this year so they need celebrities to get public's attention and sell tickets for the musical and Heechul is serving as a personnel.About Boom idk...

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  26. ---Yeon-Hap News Interview with 'Im Tae Hoon', Director of the Center on Military Human Rights -

    To begin with, I am against the decision to refer the issue to the disciplinary committee. The reason for this was that Rain was not wearing his hat when he was out on leave. If this violation is to be punished, than to be consistent all soldiers who walk with their hands in their pockets should also be punished. This type of punishment is wrong.

    Regarding the criticism that Rain had private meetings while on leave for official work duties:
    It is possible that a soldier may go to a convenience store, for example, or take care of a little bit of personal business at such times. Also, if a soldier’s home is in Seoul, it’s also conventionally considered possible that he might briefly meet with a friend. I think it’s excessively harsh to impose such regulations with absolute strictness (only in the case of Rain).

    ---From an interview with 'Park Hyo-Shin' from Kookbang Ilbo (National Defense Daily News) -

    There are indeed very many occasions when we give performances all across the country. To begin with, there are 52 ‘K-Force Special Show’ programs scheduled for each year, and then there’s also support work to be performed for various events and radio program performances as well. Often, we go out to work at events even after not getting much sleep, trying to catch a few minutes of sleep on the bus on the way to the performance site, and when we open our eyes, we’re already at the performance site.

    We finish the performance and get back on the bus, trying again desperately to catch a bit of sleep, and we open our eyes and we’re already arrived at yet another performance site so we begin all over again ..

    We frequently give performance out in the provinces, and since the performances end late in the evening, by the time we arrive back at our living quarters it is 1 or 2 in the morning, and the next day we are expected of course to follow the full schedule as usual.

    It is not an easy assignment, since we are required to undertake various support work in addition to our basic duties, and we are also participate without exemption in all of the usual drills that ordinary soldiers complete, including mental training, basic military training, extreme cold weather training and intensive training.

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  27. Heechul is a different case, he has a logical reason to be in public military service.

    That is why he also doesn't join most of the SJ choreos or show up in the latest minute where even some ELFs whine abou it 'OMO HE NEVER DANCES WITH THE GROUP OTTOKE'
    It's hard when you have a metal placket in your leg.

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  28. Too be honest, I think a lot of celebrities get some "special treatment" too, maybe include Huyn Bin, but Rain's caught.

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  29. Get rid of celebrity-soldier-in-service status and just invite more female celebrities host their shows. I'm sure the soldiers would appreciate it more.

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  30. WHERE'S 'Anonymous' ?!

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  31. oh Rain.. T_T It was already filled with delayed schedules and this and that before you finally enlisted, and now this? >.<

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  32. gosh this is getting nastier every single days =_=

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  33. Rolling eyes...inform yourself before speaking!

    He served for 5 months near Demilitarised Zone, with -20 gr C, like any soldier. He applied for PR and got admitted (if he wouldn't be good, he wouldn't be admitted). He was sent to Emergency Room after a schedule coz of his back problem (many dancers/choreos have BIG problems with the spine), he even had to pass one schedule coz of this condition (but he doesn't like to talk about this, he doesn't whine).

    He was so poor when young that he couldn't even buy to his mom (as a last thing before her death from a complication from diabetes) more than a 1000 wons instant soup (the cheapest). He was a teen and he worked his butt of to help with money his mom and little sis. Near Christmas he was cast away with his little sis from the rented room coz he didn't have money to pay, he begged not to but no one cared. Every Christmas to us is a joy, to him is a remember taht his mom died coz no one wanted to help a teen boy to help his mom survive some more years.



    The thing is that this man KNOWS what it's like to not eat for days and just work, work, work for a dream. Acting like a spoil brat? God, give me patience, please and to her some more brain.

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  34. Hyun Bin served in the entertaiment section in Marine. He served well, did his job just fine, glad he's out, but is just like PR. So...irrelevant.

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  35. I literally laughed at headlines.
    Rain has hit rock-bottom.
    Bye bye, baby goodbye.

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  36. I'm sure all of celebrities get special treatment. It's just a matter of how far and they got caught or not

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  37. Hyun bin is an exception but i know that most of people who criticize Rain if they were celebrity and had the chance to suffer less from the military they would take the chance just like Rain they are being hypocritical

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  38. The Marines run a tighter ship than the army (in exchange for a shorter required enlistment). I don't think he was granted over 100 days of leave like Boom was and he certainly didn't star in any musicals or get to grow his hair out long like Ji Hyun Woo.

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  39. Sounds like excuses. No wonder all the CIVILIANS are pissed off.


    The last paragraph from Park Hyo Shin's interview... I'm reading nothing about actually standing guard, which is the point of the military. Yes, drill and shit are difficult.


    But after the drills and training are done? They just get to go prance around indoors for musicals?

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  40. RAIN... Why did you have to do this???

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  41. If he "cannot be too physical", then WHY is he still an idol?

    Or is it that Super Junior doesn't actually do a lot on stage, so it's somehow perfectly okay for him to dance around in skinny jeans night after night after night...


    His doctors only allotted him 12 weeks of recovery, which is much too short for someone who sustained injuries like that. Especially if you have a metal rod in your leg.


    Maybe SM did it on purpose so Heechul wouldn't accidentally be shot at or something. Who knows? A dirty company pulls dirty tricks to protect their little cash cows.

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  42. north korea does have weapons but south korea (and the usa) have much much more advanced weapons. and what do soldiers have to do with a country's arsenal? north korea has a few shady missiles but compared to the combined strength of the usa & sk, they are pipsqueaks.

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  43. nk isn't full of hate. they just know that being a perceived as insane is a great strategy.

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  44. Dancing around for 3 or 4 minutes at a time is different from marching for hours on end for how many kilometers everyday, or standing guard on post for a certain amount of hours. He broke his freaking left leg in 5 different places, and had a metal rod in his thigh for almost 2 years. I'm surprised he even qualified for public service at all. I actually thought he'd be exempted like Shin Hyesung of Shinhwa, who has problems with his knee. I mean, Heechul barely even ran the night he filmed "Running Man." I give props to him for even being able to undergo the required 5 weeks of basic training.

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  45. Yoo Seungjun. Korean-American who grew up in the US and came back to Korea to be a star in his late teens/early 20s. Kinda like a 90s version of Rain, fame-wise. Kicked out several years ago because he kept saying he'll enter the army just like everybody else then apparently took up a US citizenship just when it was near his deadline to enlist. He's been banned in Korea for life and only got to go back once to attend his father-in-law's funeral.


    He attended the MAMA Awards recently, the first time he was in a Korean event for so long. The man almost cried from the applause he was getting from the Korean singers and actors who were present.

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  46. Yeah SM is the nest evil creatures and unspeakable horror and profane actions.

    Where fuck are you living to be this delusional or are you simply just too biased?

    YG or JYP or nearly every other company in S.Korean music scene haven't done anything bad?
    Please try not to sound that biased next time.

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  47. To be honest at first i kind of thought that treating celebrities diff isn't a bad idea after all , especially when u talked about the "accidents" .......

    what i thought is , imagine if leeteuk who have a strong i-fanbase, got injured or got in a an accident it will spread worldwide, that will make both the army and south Korea in a bad position from i-media *from the army point of view*

    but i don't think they need to take it this far ....... at least respect the other soldiers feeling and hard work ... after all they r doing it for their/your own country...

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  48. im a girl who has no idea of what is army like and feel bad for those who have to go there leaving everything behind for 2 years or so but if the celebs enlists, their agencies should let them serve their time quietly... they might not perceive income from a couple of events but income means nothing compared to maintaining your image intact... LOOK: a couple of events and now Rain's the "public enemy" when he has wowrked his ass off all this time... but he's not the only one at fault here: truth is that money talks and the army needs income too, thats why they do all these events with celebrities soldiers at the front like musicals and stuff... for me, the army people are hypocrites because they make income from celebrities soldiers and give them the allegedly "special treatment" themselves and then wash their hands when stuff like this happen... same happens with the government that sells Kpop as their ultimate product but feels no shame to use Kpop idols as shields to protect themselves when theres a scandal that is about SK's President or his people...

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  49. Okay so your saying that just because of his past (which the military won't give a hoot about in the first place!) he has the right to break military laws? If that were the case, i'm gonna go cry to my university and tell them I had a difficult past to, then maybe my tears might move them to give me a free scholarship, all 4 years paid. Riiiiight....

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  50. Do you think musicals or performing aren't difficult? Anyone who performs at a professional level puts in as much work, both physically and mentally, as a professional athlete.


    After working in the musical business on just a semi-professional level before I can say 100% that after a week straight of performing, I would rather just stand around on guard even in the cold than have to do another two days straight worth of performances. Your throat is sore, your body aches like no other, and it's so incredibly hard to put on a good performance with a lack of sleep.


    I understand why people get upset that celebrities get more breaks and get privileges that normal soldiers do not and I agree with that. But performance is much more straining and demanding than just 'prancing around'

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  51. Are you new to Kpop? It is not a recent thing, or a new issue, that idols are forced to cut short recovery time or resting periods doctors had instructed because schedules/rehearsals/filmings/photoshoots require them to be present and doing what they are supposed to do. How often have you heard of idols going for activities and schedules earlier than what their doctors recommend? Far too often.

    Maybe if you stop blindfolding yourself in your biasness you’ll see that 1. ALL entertainment companies are the same, with the same dirty tricks that they use on the people in their company (because let’s face it is an industry and it's a business) and 2. companies may want to protect their cashcows but it’s unlikely they’ll be so stupid as to meddle with army enlistment issues like these because we know how big a deal it is in SK and netizens, in case you still don’t know, are certainly very vicious, sharp-eyed and NOT silly little fangirls that can be lied to.

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  52. That's what I was thinking all along. It really is unfair to give some a special treatment while letting others suffer but can't they just blame the military instead of hating on Rain (or any other celebrity soldier). I guess asking for improvement from the military works better than just hating on someone. I'm not saying they shouldn't put part of the blame on rain though, but their hate sounds a bit too hardcore (not only on rain but for most celebrities). Most of the time, It really does picture them as hypocrites tbh ...as I'm pretty sure most of them wouldn't reject a special treatment if put in any soldier's shoes.

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