Reader request. For some reason, I haven't seen TVXQ news ranked in the top 20 lately, which is why I probably missed it. The few articles that I did find with best replies aren't that high in numbers, but here you go!
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Article: Comeback TVXQ, to release new album 'Catch Me' on the 24th
Source: Sports Seoul via Nate
1. [+47, -5] I'm really happy but also kind of sad.. TVXQ's 6th album.. fighting!
2. [+42, -2] I used to be such a huge fan so I'm kind of upset, but I hope they work hard and do well.
3. [+41, -7] Wow, it was true about their comeback then ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ I hope they do well!
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Article: TVXQ finally comeback, Yunho's powerful teaser with his eyes covered released
Source: Newsen via Nate
1. [+17, -0] The picture's daebak ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… I've waited so long for you guys ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã…
2. [+17, -0] Ah.. waited so long.. ã… ã… My heart's fluttering just seeing the pictures..
3. [+15, -1] Nice to meet you, I love you
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Article: TVXQ to hold solo concert after four years.. along with world tour
Source: OSEN via Nate
1. [+18, -0] I waited four years for TVXQ's concert. I'm so glad to hear not only news of their 6th album comeback but also their solo concert and world tour!!! Looking forward to their amazing new image ^____^
2. [+15, 0] They say that good news comes in waves. News of a 6th album and a concert all at once ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ I trust that their 6th album will hit daebak and that their world tour will do well!!
3. [+15, -0] News of a concert along with a teaser picture ã… ã… ã… soo happy!! I'll be waiting for more comeback news!ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã…
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Korea seems really disinterested in DBSK.
ReplyDeleteYunhos teaser was exciting while changmins was lame...I hope the song is good. Good luck Homin!
ReplyDeleteI am just going to go ahead and say that out of JYJ, Junsu had the most to lose. He along with Leeteuk is SME's very first trainees, his best friend since elementary school is Sujus Eunhyuk and was also really close with Donghae and Sungmin. Leeteuk has said mutliple times that Junsu and Eunhyuk are his favourite dongsaengs as he has known them the longest. I've also watched past DB5K shows where Junsu said the GG's Jessica and Soyoung were close with him because they trained together for a long time.
DeleteI also know that the DB5K members have said that Junsu is the "happy virus" or the most easy going 'pure' member. Considering all of this I think he had the most friendships to lose + the longest history with SME.
The fact that he of all people decided to risk so many of his friendships makes me believe that something truly bad must have happened to turn him as well as Jaejoong and Yoochun against the company...
There are some people trying to pass him off as some cold hearted person when in fact...his personality is the opposite.
When JYJ speak out they don't really have anything to lose, no shadow hovering over them while when SME artists say things keep in mind that they have to at all times speak well of SMentertainment. Because they actually have something to lose.
I suggest everyone go do some research before picking a side.
As for myself I will always support individuals over a corporation. Always.
Kay im done and dayuuum I wrote a lot.
so we can say they aren't that popular anymore?
ReplyDeleteHah...mixed feelings. This is bittersweet. I wonder if Yunho&Changmin ever feel guilty for all they get vs all their counterparts are denied.
ReplyDeleteAnyway...FIGHTING!
Eh. I don't really think they should feel guilty at all. I mean, yeah they get to be on music/variety shows and promote in Japan, but JYJ have also gotten to do a lot of things TVXQ hadn't gotten to.
DeleteI mean SM is finally letting them do a world tour. JYJ has done three so far (4 if you include Junsu's). Plus the fan meeting tours and the dramas/movie.
It's not like TVXQ is getting to do everything while JYJ rot on the side, like what happened to JTL back in the day. So no need for guilt...
The biggest thing I was talking about was the utter and complete banishment of JYJ in Japan. Not TV programs, I think JYJ want to promote in Japan more then they want to appear on TV. Yunho&Changmin have been promoting fully in Japan for the last two years. I want them BOTH to succeed, its just that it would feel better if one of them weren't harrassed every step they took.
DeleteWho is these maknae?
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised by the huge difference in reaction between international netizens and Korean ones regarding this comeback.
ReplyDeleteI guess TVXQ might not be interesting? LOL maybe one of them should have a scandal. Nothing brings attention like those, apparently...
It saddens me that they are not as famous as before. I mean come one they are tvxq they deserve so much better than this. They still have their fanbase but the general public knows little to nothing about their current music. If you ask someone in their 20s, they still think that tvxq are five.
ReplyDeleteI blame SM for this, my biggest fear is that they will ship Yunho to the army next year, then what.
Some people might not agree but I think Yunho can become a good actor ( Yunho stop with the overacting...God), he just needs a good acting coach and time to prepare for his next role. Changmin should stick to singing, maybe his new movie will make me change mmy mind.
yeah, kinda sad that public people seems like disinterested on them but i'm just glad they're still there holding the name :D
ReplyDeleteFighting TVXQ UKnow Yunho, Choikang Changmin ^^
wahh~ wahh~~!
ReplyDeletenetizens are only interested in girl groups as always
ReplyDeletetvxq are not a topic of interest lol. they lost all hype with their name
ReplyDeleteWhy are comments saying that they're happy, but sad at the same time? Did I miss something?
ReplyDeleteMaybe because they're still 2 and not 5?
DeleteI have no idea. That's all I can really think of that would make fans sad
Uh if they weren't known/famous in Korea anymore they wouldnt have gotten ad contracts with Missha and Shilla Duty Free -.- I bet half the public has little to no idea about jyj's music as well lol. Anyway netizens are mostly interested in scandals, so in a way I'm relieved that they aren't the 'hot topic' of netizens now. Spare them the vultures please.
ReplyDeleteHaha its more like SME paid the right people to give Homin those contracts.
DeleteI'm what? JYJ is very well known in Korea because of their members' roles in popular dramas and their subsequent OST tracks in them. Please look at the last JYJ article in here (the one about their lawsuit being postponed indefinitely). It was a topped ranked article with the best comments getting 400+ thumbs up.
DeleteAlso if half of the country didn't know them/their music then how did they manage to snag LOTTE Duty Free, Nature Republic, LG, Nintendo, NII (2.5 years and counting), and Tony Moly? It's not like they have a huge conglomerate of a company buying deals for them.
Right. Like the money used to buy expensive cars and houses cannot be used to pay off companies too. Idiot. Use your brain. Jyj has every reason to buy of companies as much as homin does.
DeleteAre you literally this ignorant?? Idols don't buy off companies or buy CF deals. Their management companies do.
DeleteAnd you really think JYJ by themselves, as three artists, can have enough money to buy houses for themselves & their parents and nice cars and then STILL have enough money to buy off LG, LOTTE, Nintendo, and 2 of Korea's largest cosmetic chains?
Wow, JYJ must be Bill Gates in your mind.
No, you're the ignorant one. Even if jyj has nothing to do with it, a good portion of their money goes to cjes. And I'm not going to believe thy cjes and their mafia connections have nothing to do with jyj's endorsements. Everyone's acting like SM is the only dirty one here, but cjes (jyj's representative) is every bit as dirty.
DeleteActually, CJeS does not get a majority of the money because they are just JYJ's management company. Meaning JYJ hires them, not the other way around. JYJ and CJeS are also not in an exclusive contract.
DeleteAnd please, the whole CJeS mafia thing has been disproved for so long.
The CEO Baek was arrested in the past (long before CJeS was created) because of monetary problems.
Please tell me how this is different from Lee Soo Man, who was put in Interpol's watch list because of suspicions of corruption?
Also if anyone should be feeling guilty it's jyj because they're the one who started all this mess lol. Homin has nothing to feel guilty about.
ReplyDelete"Also if anyone should be feeling guilty it's jyj because they're the one who started all this mess lol. Homin has nothing to feel guilty about. "
ReplyDeleteI'm going to use your favorite word now
lol
Why, thanks so much! I really appreciate it :) so genuine like jyj!
DeleteIt's genuinely depressing to see how much Korea doesn't care about DBSK anymore. Their music is genuinely good and they're legit some of the absolute best performers in kpop, but they're always gonna be living in DB5K's shadow. Plus it's just impossible to bounce back completely from losing over half your members and only promoting in the country for a total of 4 months over the past 4 years.
ReplyDeleteJYJ are selfish idiots, that's all I can say. Homin got their popularity and success pulled out from underneath them through no fault of their own, I'm just glad they're killing it in Japan and proved they can do it on their own.
It's amazing how ignorant fans are of the real situation. THSK now is NOT killing it in Japan. Their last album was given away free in departmental stores cheap giveaways, as buy 10,000 yen, get a CD kind. Bigeast opened membership to non-Japanese, smells of desperation. Think hard, which one of the five had always been most popular in Japan?
Deletereally , can you tell me more. I have always read from homin fans how homin as two are doing ten times better than tvxq5. I don't pay attention to much to both casual fan.
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ReplyDeleteWell maybe they wouldn't use the name of DBSK... using the name (which is their right) they have to deal with being compared to the past.
And about JYJ maybe you should move on and stop hatin on them... just focus on tvxq...everybody made his decision... now deal with the consequences...
^ Being compared to DB5K is nowhere near as bad as the name never being used again and COMPLETELY forgotten. I'm sure they expected the comparisons but I just think it would be nice if people judged them on their own merit. And yeah, I find it hard to move on from blatant injustice...
ReplyDelete^ I honestly don't know why you are mad at JYJ and not SM.
ReplyDeleteTVXQ's current lack of popularity has little to do with JYJ and a lot to do with how they were managed.
The entertainment field is fickle and in order to be popular and to be noticed, a group needs to have a constant presence in the public whether it be through dramas, variety shows, or solo projects.
What did SM give TVXQ? Two fail dramas, two cameos in other fail dramas. The only permanent spot either of them had in a variety show was in one that everyone thought would be a bad show (Kiss and Cry). Neither member had a solo or any musical project in Korea since KYHD.
And instead of keeping TVXQ's presence alive in Korea, SM decided to just milk them for money in Japan and keep them there for 1.8 years. The only tours they were allowed to have outside of Japan were ones with other SM town members. It's been 3 years since the TVXQ/JYJ split and they are just now getting their own tour outside of Korea.
Hell even SNSD, while not releasing anything in Korea, still constantly promoted by SM be it their appearance on variety shows like Running Man and their TTS activities. I know it's easier for them as a large group, but it's what's needed.
The only one to blame in this mess is SM. Yeah sure, if TVXQ were still 5 they'd be more popular, but if they were being managed like SM is managing the current TVXQ, it wouldn't have been by an exponentially larger amount. The current Korean entertainment field, with it's over saturation of new idols, just keeps getting more and more competitive, even for established idols.
+100000
DeleteYou are reaching. They lost their popularity because they lost over half their fanbase, it's that simple. Their popularity always dwindled a bit while they were in Japan, but it's nothing compared to how much the split cost them.
ReplyDeleteSM are managing them well. Sending them to Japan is by far the best thing SM can do for them because they have so much more support there, earn more, etc. Korean popularity isn't worth much in comparison, the only reason they still work there is for their fans and because it's their home- not because it's more profitable or beneficial in any way. It's just that back in the day they could get away with absence more easily.
I love it how when it's a band with no controversies netizens don't even care really. Sure puts T-ara/BigBang/etc in context. The way to get popular and to maintain popularity is to use the netizen herd against itself. If they can't stop talking about it, at least they're talking about it.
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If TVXQ lost half their popularity solely because they lost half of their fandom then wouldn't JYJ be receiving the same apathetic response from the public? They aren't, though, so there's more to it.
Seeing as how TVXQ are Korean artists and their future careers after they leave the military will be in Korea, and not Japan, keeping their popularity in their home country is pretty damn important.
Unless they want to move to Japan and have careers there permanently.
lol already this one netizenbuzz article has more comments than any of the Korean TVXQ articles linked here.
ReplyDelete^ JYJ had the three most popular members and there's 3 of them. Yoochun is relevant as hell because of his dramas, Junsu was always Koreas favourite, and Jaejoong has a legion of batshit fangirls. And they're not that relevant either tbh.
ReplyDeleteBut they could have permanent careers in Japan, celebrities there have decades long careers.
Not that relevant? Lol okay
Deletelol time for jyj stans to gloat, you all must be so happy right now, aren't you?
ReplyDeleteIn general, no, not really. It's SM we're against.
DeleteWhat happens to TVXQ is what happens. It doesn't affect JYJ.
In this site? Yes, I am actually kind of happy. After having to deal with that crazy TVXQ Stan that spams every single JYJ article, it's a bit karmic, ngl
LOL, who cares? Unless it affects or causes harm to JYJ, we don't care what TV2XQ are doing or what happens to them. With that said, I'm only here because someone posts link to this article in which some rabid TV2XQ stans love to blame JYJ for their idols' somewhat irrelevancy in Korea. It's hilarious to see their ignorance and logic though.
Delete^We are not as vicious as U ;)
ReplyDeleteWhy i cannot reply??
ReplyDelete^
ReplyDeleteReplying only works on certain browsers, I think.
For me, the reply button only works when I'm on mobile. It's strange.
I wonder if it was all worth it leaving SM sometimes. I mean they spent probably at least 4 years training with all the other trainees? and 5 years as DBSK? Hmm
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ReplyDeleteAre you talking about JYJ? Idk, they're doing well for themselves and they seem pretty happy.
And it's not like they lost all their friendships or something. Junsu and Eunhyuk hang out, as do Jaejoong and Heechul.
Yeah, there were losses and gains both, but I guess only they know if it was 'worth it'
That dog got some balls.
ReplyDeleteOh for goodness sake. Dbsk is still popular. It's cos that they're absolutely scandal free that they're not at the top of news sites. You guys are overreacting. And I see jyj stans putting them down here, just as expected. Like idols (junsu haha) like fans.
ReplyDeleteThese SM lovers are the dumbest ever.
ReplyDeleteRight now you're happy with the promotions of your favourite idols, but in the future you will see what SM will do with them, SM does this with every single one of them, the future is for Exo and SM's new girl group, so you think SNSD will be promoting like they are being promoted now?
They will pay for the promotions of the next generation of SM puppets.
If SM wanted to promote HoMin properly they would being winning awards in the end of year shows, but it's not interesting for them anymore.
Exo will be much more popular than SNSD and until when SM wants they win, they will.
Like what SM did with Super Junior on that award show, they would win that award, but SM decided to give to SNSD, that's how things work.
I'm glad JYJ can decide what to do with their own carrers, it would be better if SM didn't keep getting in the way.
People talking about greedy, I guess is greedy then that the two that stayed with SM got drama deals right after the chaos.
That was what SM offered to all the five of them, look I will give you this drama, and this CF deal and this etc if you stay with SM, SM did that with all the five of them, it's when the company tries to break the team (DSP also did that with Kara). It's normal in these cases. So Changmin and Yunho chose the drama and CF deals while JYJ knew they would probaly never sing again in Korea. That's reeeeally greedy. ¬¬
I'm glad JYJ is changing the game little by little.
Were you there when it happened? Or did you base your little story on what their families said? Naive little thing.
DeleteLet's bet in the looonnnnng run?
ReplyDeleteWho will survive? JYJ or 2VXQ?
;-)
Lol stupid jyj stans yapping about what their precious idols and their families want them to believe like stupid dogs.
ReplyDeletetruth is k-netizens like drama and to badmouth people so because this post is not a scandal and its not an article where they can come with the same old insults and words they use to refer to poeple they like to bash like GD or T-ara, then dont care...
ReplyDeletepeople should stop blamming JYJ for homin's state honestly... its been like 3 years now! we all know SM, we all know how they overworked everyone... the conditions have gotten slightly better now for SM artists with their contracts and stuff BECAUSE OF JYJ... I think TVXQ are still popular but being SM i think they have always played favorites and HAVE NO IDEA IN HOW TO BALANCE THE PROMOTIONS OF ALL THEIR ARTISTS...
LOL. to all of you: LOL.
ReplyDeleteAnd TVXQ fans keep lying to themselves. TVXQ articles nowadays don't make it into the top read articles. Their comeback should have at least stirred enough interest to get their articles read.
ReplyDeleteI don't get why people are blaming the other 3. TVXQ spent most of their time promoting in Japan. Now there's issues with the Dokdo island political issues and TVXQ decides to return to Korea. You honestly expect them to be received with open arms?
Is pretty sad if you stop to look at the whole situation but if anyone is to blame its TVXQ & SM for how they managed their own career and decisions.
^ You make me laugh. KARA is SO loved by korea right now and it's because they're hallyu idols in Japan. Where on earth is the logic here?
ReplyDeleteThank Goddess I became fan after the split. That must have been a hell for the fans and group. The war is still raging I see :(
ReplyDeleteWe don't know what happened, we can only guess but we _don't_know_. That's it. It is stupid to fight over something, when you don't even know if it's true.
Lol
ReplyDeletelook at these rude idiot homing stans. Admit it already, they stayed because of money. Such pussies for retreating last minute when we all know all give of them planned to escape initially.
^ oh PLEASE give me a break. everyone knows that jyj left cos of the money. *rolls eyes*
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I think Homin are happier than JYJ. Look at changmin, he smiles so much more now as compared to last time, and looks younger and younger everytime i see him. Not like JYJ who i HONESTLY think look older and more tired everytime I see them, especially jaejoong. And that's without the photoshop.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen a JYJ interview before? The kind where they just sit in front of a camera and talk about whatever the hell comes to their minds?
DeletePlease watch one of those and tell me that those three men are not happy with each other and just being together, doing whatever they want to.
Lol Are you serious? To say that ragged face CH looks young and that boyish face JJ looks old is like saying YH sings better than JS or JJ, or that CH is better actor than YC or JJ xD
DeleteWhat?? JYJ look more older?
DeleteHwaaaahahhahaha
In my mind they still young, more mature and handsome. Everytime i saw them together, they are seem happy. No acting. And.. did you see JaeSu tweet today..?? Oh.. they are to cute and a happy family
i dont get why TVXQ fans kept calling JYJ "greedy". dont want to be rude, but didnt the two got offered dramas and such, while the three even prepared to be farmers after they filed lawsuit? 0.o
ReplyDeletebtw, not a fan of both :)
wow pressed Homin stans haha
ReplyDelete"^ oh PLEASE give me a break. everyone knows that jyj left cos of the money. *rolls eyes*"
ReplyDeleteyep money which they supposed to earn, but goes into others pocket. i see nothing wrong with that :)
^ oh for goodness sake. that's something that they said AFTER they became remotely successful. i'm sure homin thought their careers were over after 3/5 of their group upped and left them. just because homin don't talk about it so often, that we should believe everything jyj feeds us.
ReplyDeleteewww i see gloating jyj stans here. shoo. btw to whoever said that their article was top, look here again: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.sg/2012/09/jyj-vs-sm-entertainment-verdict.html
ReplyDeleteTop comment only +21 votes haha!
Please look at the most recent SM/JYJ article on here; 500+votes and more on all the top comments.
DeleteLook at Jaejoong's interview article posted on here. 1000+ votes and more on each top vote.
Look at Junsu's article on here.
All of these articles were included on here because they were the #1 ranking article of the day, while not even news of a comeback can get TVXQ into the top 20.
"To be honest I think Homin are happier than JYJ. Look at changmin, he smiles so much more now as compared to last time, and looks younger and younger everytime i see him. Not like JYJ who i HONESTLY think look older and more tired everytime I see them, especially jaejoong. And that's without the photoshop."
ReplyDeleteidk abt Changmin, but Jaejoong and Junsu has repeatedly without fail mentioning they're very happy with current lives now.(in interviews and concerts)
that says much, since it came out of their own mouth
"ewww i see gloating jyj stans here. shoo. btw to whoever said that their article was top, look here again: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.sg/2012/09/jyj-vs-sm-entertainment-verdict.html
ReplyDeleteTop comment only +21 votes haha!"
lol not like its not some "COMEBACK" news haha. besides, there's been like 3-4 of d same article (SM vs JYJ) this month only
If you're not a JYJ fan and don't remotely follow JYJ, don't talk as if you know what they said or when they said it. They risked it all for their rights and happiness. And they mentioned that before anything was ever certain and long before they saw the success they've experienced.
ReplyDeleteAnd for those that are trying to claim TVXQ is happier, I don't see how that's even an argument? Are you really going to stoop that low as to talk about who is happier? lol. How would you even know that? And besides, this year has been tough on JYJ. Jaejoong has just come out of finishing not only a drama where he slept very little, but also a movie that he was filming simultaneously alongside his drama. Yuchun's dad passed away and he wasn't even able to focus on it until AFTER he finished his drama, RTP, which also had a demanding schedule. Then there's the maknae, Junsu who also had musicals and then immediately jumped into his Asia tour followed by his World Tour which he hasn't finished. They're tired! They work hard. Of course they're going to look the part.
"ewww i see gloating jyj stans here."
ReplyDeletehahaha if you havent realised, in every jyj article there'll be gloating homin stans too. thats what you call karma.
Oh please, the SM vs JYJ article didn't get comments because most fans are just annoyed with it and fed up with it. They want the issue over so why would they focus on it?
ReplyDeletewoah fanwars!
ReplyDeleteyunho and changmin are always so serious.
jyj attracts me better, they're more cheerful and interesting.
homin stans/ sm lovers had been using that "crebeau" thing as excuse for calling out jyj as "greedy" like, in every jyj article.
ReplyDeleteplease, stop using that outdated info.
do some research.
"Oh please, the SM vs JYJ article didn't get comments because most fans are just annoyed with it and fed up with it. They want the issue over so why would they focus on it?"
ReplyDeleteThat's a poor argument to make. I'm sure netizens are fedup and annoyed with t-ara/gd/seungri but they're definitely focused on it, to say the least.
"homin stans/ sm lovers had been using that "crebeau" thing as excuse for calling out jyj as "greedy" like, in every jyj article.
ReplyDeleteplease, stop using that outdated info.
do some research."
JYJ stans have been using that 'drama' excuse that junsu's family fed them like 4 years ago. Please stop using that outdated info as well, thank you!
Oh please, none if us dislike TVXQ because of that meeting.
DeleteTVXQ did the damage themselves with their interviews during the KYHD time and with the letters that them and their fathers wrote right after the lawsuit.
"Please look at the most recent SM/JYJ article on here; 500+votes and more on all the top comments.
ReplyDeleteLook at Jaejoong's interview article posted on here. 1000+ votes and more on each top vote.
Look at Junsu's article on here.
All of these articles were included on here because they were the #1 ranking article of the day, while not even news of a comeback can get TVXQ into the top 20."
That's cos CJES paid them, duh! Doesn't this blog teach you that anything can be done to make articles first these days?
Lmao are you being sarcastic? (can't really tell on the Internet)
DeleteI hope you are because companies can pay to make their articles go to the top, but the csn't pay for comments or upvotes.
If they could, I'm sure all those EXID articles would have 20000 comments and upvotes.
Anyway i see no negative comments made by netizens in these articles.. So weird that the comments in this blog are more negative than the netizen's comments, for once! Shows how touchy i-fans are.
ReplyDelete"^ oh for goodness sake. that's something that they said AFTER they became remotely successful. i'm sure homin thought their careers were over after 3/5 of their group upped and left them. just because homin don't talk about it so often, that we should believe everything jyj feeds us."
ReplyDeletewell, why would homin's career be over when a multimillionaire company is there to back them up?
three people at the peak of their careers, going against a very powerful company. its very likely their career's going to end right then and there. so i dont see the reason why we shouldnt trust what they said? its logical and practically true anyways 0.o
"Have you ever seen a JYJ interview before? The kind where they just sit in front of a camera and talk about whatever the hell comes to their minds?
ReplyDeletePlease watch one of those and tell me that those three men are not happy with each other and just being together, doing whatever they want to."
Yeah but they looked just as happy in DBSK interviews. Which they later claimed to have been not. How confusing.
They never said they weren't happy with the members. They've always said they treasured the times they had with them.
DeleteThe problems solely are between JYJ and SM. JYJ were unhappy with their contracts, the unfair pay, and lack on control over both their finances and their career.
ReplyDelete"That's cos CJES paid them, duh! Doesn't this blog teach you that anything can be done to make articles first these days?"
please. Jaejoong alone is relevant enough for the article to top all day. lol
"well, why would homin's career be over when a multimillionaire company is there to back them up?
ReplyDeletethree people at the peak of their careers, going against a very powerful company. its very likely their career's going to end right then and there. so i dont see the reason why we shouldnt trust what they said? its logical and practically true anyways 0.o"
Because most of their fans sided with JYJ after that meeting with the 3's families. Even with a powerful company behind them, having most of their fans turn their back on them is able to make anyone doubt their future career. While i'm pretty sure that JYJ (and their families) were confident that they had made their fans continue to support them by feeding them (true or not, idk) stories.
"please. Jaejoong alone is relevant enough for the article to top all day. lol"
ReplyDeleteyeah for EXID too, LOL!
Except EXID's articles only had like 12 upvotes for the most popular comment...
DeleteDon't know if you are blind or you just don't want to see.
DeleteJaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu are popular not just because of JYJ or for their past as DBSK's members.
They are popular now because of their individual activities in where they display their individual talents. Yes. TALENTS , because sadly for you guys you can't auto-tune acting nor you can't auto-tune a musical performance.
They are banned everywhere as JYJ, but it's their TALENTS that keep them going on and not a super powerful agency.
"That's a poor argument to make. I'm sure netizens are fedup and annoyed with t-ara/gd/seungri but they're definitely focused on it, to say the least."
ReplyDeleteexcept its a 3 year old boring scandal. nothing new.
"yeah for EXID too, LOL!"
ReplyDeleteyou can differentiate between media play and real relevant articles by looking at the (+) votes. lol
1000+ vs less than 12+
you do the math XD
By now this article has almost double the amount of comments than all the articles listed here combined!
ReplyDelete"TVXQ did the damage themselves with their interviews during the KYHD time and with the letters that them and their fathers wrote right after the lawsuit."
ReplyDeleteIKR
"Yeah but they looked just as happy in DBSK interviews. Which they later claimed to have been not. How confusing."
ReplyDeletethey've never said they're unhappy with the members. wow twisting stories much 0.o
Junsu showed what an asshole he was when he slandered Yunho in his twitter when Yunho had absolutely no way of defending himself there. Also at a critical time when TVXQ was about to make their comeback. Some idol. Some friend.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I believe that the letters their fathers wrote was only to defend themselves from the slander that JYJ and their families dealt onto their sons.
Slander? All Junsu did was ask why Yunho's mind had changed. How is that negative? The only negative he said in those tweets was that SM was "the enemy". And it was obvious Tony's that he would have thought that.
DeleteYou need to learn to learn what slander is.
Slander is what Jaewon and Shindong and BoA did to Junsu, saying he was less than a man.
Slander is what Changmin did to JYJ, comparing them to animals.
Slander is what Yunho's father did, working with a Japanese author and getting him to write an anti-JYJ book and run an anti-JYJ blog in Japan.
JYJ have never slandered TVXQ. In fact, during KYHD they actually asked for fans to support TVXQ. So please take your truetvxq hate and educate yourself.
*to us, not Tony's.
DeleteNetizenbuzz, is there a way to get replies to work on all browsers. Mine only works on Apple mobile OS and sometimes on Firefox
"they've never said they're unhappy with the members. wow twisting stories much 0.o"
ReplyDeleteno one said that they were unhappy with their members. but like years back when they looked so happy in their interviews as 5, they look as happy as they are now. and yet now they claim that actually back then they were very unhappy with their circumstances and the company. hence it's hard to believe them when they say they're happy now.
"Junsu showed what an asshole he was when he slandered Yunho in his twitter when Yunho had absolutely no way of defending himself there. Also at a critical time when TVXQ was about to make their comeback. Some idol. Some friend."
ReplyDeletehe never mentioned Yunho's name.YH and CM were waayy too much when they released vicious statements on interviews, news articles and variety shows. during their comeback. -.-
Even though he never said YH's name, it was pretty obvious he meant him.
DeleteThough the thing I don't understand is why TVXQ stand think what Junsu said was "mean" or "damaging". He didn't say anything mean about Yunho.
Unless they think "that wasn't right, hyping. We all thought the same. Why have you changed now" is some sort of insult...
(that wasn't an exact quote b/c it's just from memory, but I'm 100% sure it accurately captures what Junsu said)
*hyung
Delete"yet now they claim that actually back then they were very unhappy with their circumstances and the company. hence it's hard to believe them when they say they're happy now."
ReplyDeleteyou dont expect them to look solemn all the time back then do you?
truetvxq and their "non-biased" facts. lmaooo
ReplyDeletesrsly. freakin three years, three freakin years. you guys should just read from wherever sources you trust (google! google! don't go "omg can anyone explain to me", you lazy ass), choose your stance, don't bother with other side whatever they want to say about your stance, and don't discuss the exact same things in every article in every website. what's so hard with that? that you kept discussing it over and over again is just the fact that you guys don't have any topic on your hand, and your bias aren't relevant anymore that you need to stick on old lame discussion.
ReplyDeleteMaybe both sides are happy now and fans should just let it go?
ReplyDeleteafter this article do we really want a "reply 2005" based on dbsk?
ReplyDeleteI really don't know why its so hard to just support both sides. Weren't you people fans of all of them before the split?
ReplyDeletePersonally, the only ones I can't stand are Jaejoong and Yoochun. Those two wimps had to resort to beating their own fans. Apparently everyone forgot about that after their bs apology.
JJ is a psycho and looks like a vampire. YC can't even sing anymore. Junsu is way better solo so he should just leave them behind.
You do realize how your first sentence contradicts everything else you say in your post.
DeleteNice try, TVXQ Stan!
Nice try dude, but everybody already know that those saesengs are not fans, but lunatics. So stop trying .
DeleteSo many bitter Homin stans here bashing JYJ (or is it just one no-lifer posting the same kinds of hate comments on JYJ?).. *shrug* .. I hope TVXQ will do well.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is when tvxq separated jyj had the upper hand and they still do even with all the blocking.
ReplyDeleteWhy do homin fans hate jyj? Because they are more famous and a bit more successful
Why do jyj fans hate homin? Because of sm and all their actions against jyj
People should stop hating and just support their side. Tvxq 5 is over case closed.
Of course there are always deluded fans and trolls
There is no way in hell that homin are more famous than jyj in Korea
ReplyDeleteThere is no way in hell that jyj are more famous than homin in Japan
So to each it's own.
JYJ can't even put a foot in Japan, much less release a record there, so what's the logic of your comparition?
DeleteAnyway, JJ still sells out in JP everything he wears and half of the best selling items in gmarket are JJ releated .
This is what I call popularity: t be damn famous and sell out everything even when you didnt appear even once for more than 2 years now.
So get your points straight. Jaejoong,Japan and popularity are definitely words that match the best together.
pd. Agree about the Korea part.
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ReplyDelete^ Amen. I hope Homin and JYJ fans will just move on and support their side without bashing the other.
"Junsu showed what an asshole he was when he slandered Yunho in his twitter when Yunho had absolutely no way of defending himself there. Also at a critical time when TVXQ was about to make their comeback. Some idol. Some friend"
ReplyDeleteoh yes junsu is an asshole, btw didn't yunho mention in an interview how jaejoong, yoochun and junsu didn't try to contact them after they left? and jaejoong had to leave a message on twitter. oops I guess you forgot that
"The truth is when tvxq separated jyj had the upper hand and they still do even with all the blocking.
ReplyDeleteWhy do homin fans hate jyj? Because they are more famous and a bit more successful
Why do jyj fans hate homin? Because of sm and all their actions against jyj
People should stop hating and just support their side. Tvxq 5 is over case closed"
yes please!
"after this article do we really want a "reply 2005" based on dbsk?"
ReplyDeleteActually, after reading these comments I think a drama based off of DBSK (or the DBSK split) would be epic. I mean, you can tell how powerful it was based on the fact that 3 years later fans on either side still have such high emotions over it.
HOLY MACARONI over 100+ comments on here? Not gonna debate with others on this one...
ReplyDeletelol too much jyj stans in dbsk post
ReplyDeleteOMG someone needs to make a movie based loosely on the DBSK fiasco because that would be so FUDGING interesting. this lawsuit/split has got to be the single most juiciest thing in kpop. PLEASE KOREA GIVE ME A MOVIE/DRAMA!!!
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ReplyDeleteWatch it happen in 10 years and all the middle aged TVXQ/JYJ fans come out and have renewed fanwars over how the groups were portrayed in the movie.
It would be like the wank that never stopped wanking. Glorious.
You know your site sucks when it's full of JYJ stans, poor netizenbuzz.
ReplyDeleteGet over it, your oppas are greedy and almost ruined homin's careers for money. They then made it worse by being self pitying attention whores about it afterwords.
Leaving SM was a STUPID THING TO DO. That's all it comes down to- yeah, they have more money, but their music sucks, their productions are cheap, their merchandise is overpriced, they can't go on TV shows, they can barely do anything. Junsu obviously wants to go solo, Jaejoong looks like a corpse, and Yoochun clearly doesn't give a single fuck about music. Thank god Yunho and Changmin didn't let that happen to DBSK.
Nah. Only sites filled with HoMin stans are crappy. Like Kpopsecrets, which pretty much everyone agrees is where the drudges of the fandom go.
DeleteIt seems like someone here is a bit upset that the greedy oppas are more known and successful than TVXQ.
Must hurt knowing a "corpse" sells more CDs in Korea and gets more drama/movie/endorsement deals than your favs.
And if you call doing three world tours, three highly rated musicals, 4 successful dramas, a movie with one of Korea's top actresses, and fan meetings across Asia as "barely able to do anything" then I would like to see what you think of every other kpop idol group.
ReplyDeleteTo those who are trying to put others down ----> you are really just making your own fandom look very bad and pettily... (am saying it to ALL haters)
Just grow up people!
Disrespecting and pathetic comments like this are reason why so many stars are mentioned in this article: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/netizens-take-look-in-mirror.html?m=1
Think about it ok? Bashing, hate and gloating seems enjoyable only to really sick people.
Good luck with come back TVXQ!
"You know your site sucks when it's full of JYJ stans, poor netizenbuzz.
ReplyDeleteGet over it, your oppas are greedy and almost ruined homin's careers for money. They then made it worse by being self pitying attention whores about it afterwords.
Leaving SM was a STUPID THING TO DO. That's all it comes down to- yeah, they have more money, but their music sucks, their productions are cheap, their merchandise is overpriced, they can't go on TV shows, they can barely do anything. Junsu obviously wants to go solo, Jaejoong looks like a corpse, and Yoochun clearly doesn't give a single fuck about music. Thank god Yunho and Changmin didn't let that happen to DBSK."
You know your site has a dumbass, when he tells you your site sucks, yet he's commenting anyway!
We've missed you, butthurt anon!!!........okay, not really. ;D
"Get over it, your oppas are greedy and almost ruined homin's careers for money"
ReplyDeleteoh poor homin ): appearing on TV and having a career in japan, I'm sure it's hard to be them.
You sound bitter, you should go outside
Goddamn what's going on here, y'all are such a mess, and why people feel the need to bring jyj here? Isn't it a DBSK article? y'all are such a mess, talking about revelancy and who's wrong and who's right, so much hate for something that doesn't personally involve y'all, your oppars moved on, while y'all are here hating and acting like you're saying some revelant shit to the article.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, good luck DBSK, they faced worse 2 years ago, i'm not worried about them.
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ReplyDeleteJust to remind you, the first time JYJ was mentioned in the comments (and not in replies to comments) was "I bet half the public has little to no idea about jyj's music as well lol"
So it was a TVXQ fan who brought them in. Before that, there wasn't a fanwar. Sure there were a couple comments asking if TVXQ lost interest, but no one was like "LOL TVXQ has no interest. JYJ rocks!" They didn't even mention JYJ.
Unlike the TVXQ stan that goes into every single article about JYJ here and says how they such and TVXQ/SM is better than them, the only reasons JYJ fans got so upset and riled up is because someone decided to insult JYJ in order to make themselves feel better about TVXQ's situation.
It was only after that comment was made about JYJ that the fanwar even started. Just look up and read.
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ReplyDeleteWhat are you? A 5yo? "I didn't started it, he did! No it's him!..etc."
Girl i'm not about to look up or read any of this, miss me with this bullshit. Both sides are wrong and immature, spreading hate, insulting each other, and ending up butthurt anyway. Y'all need to have a seat. Everyone outside the fandom is laughing at you, y'all are just being fucking ridiculous, and it's embarassing. Just try and move on, focus and loving and supporting the side you chose, it ain't that hard gdi.
if not for the fanwar, no one will give a sht about this article. lol. tvxq should make a scandal, their fans really bored that they started to pick a fight over the smallest thing.
ReplyDeleteI get the feeling that Yunho is gonna become the next Kangta and stay in SM well into his mid-30s. Then he'll move into management. Maybe one day we will find out that this was the plan all along. Like that manga Sanctuary, where two friends choose different paths to change the world. One goes into the yakuza and the other goes into politics.
ReplyDeleteOr not. lol.
^ childish or not, you gotta admit most JYJ fans dont give a flying fuck about TVXQ. there's too many TVXQ stans having the extra time and effort insulting JYJ in every single opportunity they had.
ReplyDeletebiggest example : Kpopsecrets
you guys had so much time afterall, eh?
lol I was wondering why this post has over 100 comments!!! Cassies, the most pressed fandom.
ReplyDeleteCassie's have a lot to be pressed about, and none of it you would understand, if you have nothing substantial to say move along-
Deletelol kpopsecret is the most laughable blog. back then in the days it's utter troll-ish that it's fun to look at. currently they become more serious... but still mind-numbingly stupid in the core. it's neither fun, neither informative either. so there's where homin stans come from... mwahahaha. no wonder they're so troll-ish in akp and here.
ReplyDeleteMost of the new jyj stans are the "underdog" bandwagon who "value" "artist freedom/input", "better schedules", "bigger profit sharing margins" for example. Typically these would be people growing up in a western/forward society with little value over loyalty but more on self gain.
ReplyDeleteThat Anon calling out SM artists on Slander. You're probably relying on translated articles and not a korean speaker because you'd know the JYJ fansites in Korea did a lot of reputation damage and slander on behalf of JYJ against HoMin DURING the initial break up. JYJ families were probably hoping the public reaction would make SM give in to them but 3 years down the line SM is bigger than they ever was. With SM C&C, I can only see JYJ getting fucked over in the entertainment industry.
To the Beautiful You is at best a foray into drama production to see how their own content team works. It blows. Idol actors blow.
I just hope they don't muscle production teams to get their idol-actors to work along with the actor they signed up. TTBY OST is already an example of maximizing the talents at their disposal regardless whether the product is a flop as long as it bears their name.
^ to every jyj haters there only one thing "FUCK YOU" .... no one called SM artists Slander ok ... every JYJ FANs problem is SM ent .. not sm artist...
ReplyDeleteJYJ fans this JYJ fans that..the true is that JYJ fans don't give a fuck about TVXQ unless Tohovicious talk shit about JYJ.
ReplyDelete^ AGREE
ReplyDeleteIt's sad to see them become like H.O.T... How Shinhwa and Fly to the Sky were able to leave without too many scars from SM is still beyond me..
ReplyDelete^
ReplyDeleteShinhwa and Fly to the Sky left without scars because they left together.
"TVXQ did the damage themselves with their interviews during the KYHD time and with the letters that them and their fathers wrote right after the lawsuit."
ReplyDeleteA+++ comment anon. I was ready to give 2TVXQ the benefit of the doubt until their KYHD promotions, the whole thing disgusts me to be quite honest.
Hahaa, HoMin surely will be over in korean industry first!! Look at the number of knetizen comments! They being nugu groups and irrelevant in korea! Why?because they dont have any talent and fakers! So go fuck urself! I would never said somthing like this if u didnt touch my jyj babies!
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