A reader sent in a tip of a Pann post that might be able to turn the tables in this whole T-ara fiasco. It hasn't blown up yet (and I'm not entirely sure if it will), but here it is anyway.
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The OP shares two instances of Hwayoung swearing and generally showing bad behavior to support T-ara/CCM's claims of Hwayoung being a negative influence to the group.
The first is a YouTube video of Boram giving a short interview on a Japanese TV show. Hwayoung, who is off camera, can be heard saying, "아, 시발 (Ah, fu*k*)," despite cameras rolling.
Eunjung then rushes to her and quietly whispers "Hwayoung" to hopefully stop her but Hwayoung continues to swear, saying, "아 존나 웃겨 (That's fu*king hilarious)."
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The second part shows caps of Hwayoung and Hyoyoung playfully wearing at each other on their Cyworld mini-homepages in 2009. I'm not sure if the tone will be passed through in my translation, but just know that it doesn't sound like anything serious at all, more like a playful conversation you have between your friends while making fun of each other, etc.
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Hyo: Lee Yoona, did you just make fun of our house?.. ㅡㅡ Hul.. Just say you don't like our house, who do you think you are ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Yoona: What what? What'd I say, you bi*tch? What, what, what?
Hyo: Screw off..
Hwa: You guys are fu*king cute ㅋㅋ Whose bi*ch are you? ㅋㅋㅋ
Hyo: My bi*ch, your bi*ch, mom's bi*ch, dad's bi*ch
Lee Yoona: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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Soyoung: Man, I normally don't copy pictures but I can't help it after seeing the last picture ㅋㅋ
Hyo: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Yoona: Idiots ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Hwa: agh, delete it immediately you fu*ker
Minsun: Look at her swearing explosives here, but why am I thinking that's so cute..
Hyo: What's so cute, you fu*ker
Hwa: I told you to delete it, you bi*ch
Hwa: What even is that picture ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Hyo: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ If you look closely, you look like a mole
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1. [+37, -16] I'm actually confused now after reading this... I don't know if she was saying (those swears) to Boram or not but the cameras were still rolling.. Now I'm wondering if she really was an outcast... Ah, I don't know.. I was against T-ara, but became confused after Hwayoung's tweets, and now I'm more confused after seeing this...
2. [+33, -12] (TN: the reply adds more swears that Hwayoung said in thie video, but to my ears, I only heard the two originally translated above) 00:00 (after Boram says 'nae') Hwayoung: son of a bi*ch 00:05 Hwayoung: so dirty 00:07 Hwayoung: crazy 00:009 (Eunjung goes over to stop Hwayoung) 00:13 Hwayoung: Ah, that's fu*king hilarious 00:16 Eunjung whispers Hwayoung's name
3. [+33, -20] Really... I'm feeling sorry about hating on T-ara now... T-ara, find strength
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Aside from the best replies, there are a number of comments claiming Queens and the post to have used hacks to fabricate views/votes because as of 1:13 a.m. in Korea, it had over 6k+ views and 330 replies, which is out of the norm (since most people on the board are asleep).
Others are saying that this doesn't excuse T-ara from their other scandals like Jiyeon's webcam and Hyomin's sex parties in the past.
Whatever the case, the post isn't widely read yet and is just a discussion amongst few so time will tell whether this impacts public opinion or not.
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Sigh -- is this SAGA every going to end? We'd like to read new articles, NetizenBuzz!
ReplyDeleteThen don't read it! This article was by a reader's request. Plus this article is something new.
DeleteI don't think this is serious at all (come on, who never cursed before with friends), and even if some people think it is, this doesn't excuse t-ara's behavior at all.
ReplyDeleteEunjung decided to shove a rice cake down her throat because she couldn't stand her saying 'fuck'? PLEASE.
SHOVE A RICE CAKE ?
DeleteIt's a kind of a game rule. Ji Yeon was also "shoved" cake by other members in that game.
The important thing is that Hwa-young was ingnoring Bo-Ram, the eldest membet by saying "fuck".
Do you think her atitude was right? Bo-Ram was interviewing with a reporter. Usually, in this case, everybody must help her concentrating on the interview. Why do you think Hwa-young cursed loudly next to Bo-ram?
i always knew she was far from innocent ever since numerous staff members spoke up against her attitude. this just cements that she really was nothing but rotten to the core.
ReplyDeleteCursing makes someone rotten to the core? Ah. Eat food.
Deletebut remember the source stating that "numerous staff members spoke up against her" was from CCM. And remember CCM is not reliable.
DeleteAlso, there wasn't any legit accounts or videos of her 'undesirable behavior'
I like these articles keep em coming *_______*
ReplyDeleteNot a big deal other idols cuss on twitter all the time
ReplyDeleteSwearing is OK - but it's definitely NOT okay to do it loudly and obnoxiously ON CAMERA when you're an idol. She shows no care in the world and even continues cackling and swearing. This girl has no home training.
ReplyDeleteNever ending drama
ReplyDeleteThis is a request, and the title is clear, if you don't want to hear about T-ara/Hwayoung, don't read it -_-
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I stopped caring about T-ara a longtime ago but I still think it's fun to see how more and more fucked it's getting.
^ the rice cake was a batsu game go search to know what it is, AND Jiyeon also had food stuffed in her mouth in the same show, why? she wasn't bullied too? but nobody said nothing about it.
ReplyDeletePlus this proove something that Hwayoung also isn't the polite one who people keep saying she is.
Swearing like this when the camera is on? Oh yeah so polite!
Plus I just got to see that is not the bullying case that people hate them, even if is prove to be truth they will still bring up the like Jiyeon's webcam and Hyomin's sex parties to hate on them.
my last comment I meant: even if it is proven NOT to be truth people will still hate on them
ReplyDeleteOhhh yeah, when T-ara does it: BITCHES!
ReplyDeleteWhen Hwayoung does it: ''Everybody does it''
trolololol you bunch of hipocrities!
Seems she was rude in a japanese show, great, korean hate when hallyu don't act well because they say they are ruining the hallyu wave.
Unnir always wrong
ReplyDeleteAside from the best replies, there are a number of comments claiming Queens and the post to have used hacks to fabricate views/votes because as of 1:13 a.m. in Korea, it had over 6k+ views and 330 replies, which is out of the norm (since most people on the board are asleep).
ReplyDeleteHum, so what? This makes the video fake? No, It is a video!
Others are saying that this doesn't excuse T-ara from their other scandals like Jiyeon's webcam and Hyomin's sex parties in the past.
Woah it was Hyomin and Jiyeon scandal NOT all the members of T-ara.
I feel bad for Eujung the most hated in this scandal....
You know, I know both sides were wrong and no one is an angel, but I kinda happy they found something about Hwayoung because she acts so righteous and that annoyed me.
ReplyDeleteEither way, fighting for both.
i don't care much bout t-ara actually i learned their names and faces because of the scandal lol but i woudn't trust this girl blindly to be honest, she has been very manipultive and have been using the situation to her favour, i mean IF she really was bullied i feel bad for her and the responsibles must be scolded that's one thing but people pretending to like her all of the sudden and she pretending that she can rap throwing shade in a song lol...
ReplyDeleteAnother thing,i remember an article where their CEO was pretty much threatning them with makig lineup changes if some members didn't change their atuttude and work harder, who knows maybe she was one of the members he was talking about.
So swearing means you're arrogant enough to be kick out of a pop group? We would have many pop stars left if that was the case. Nice try KKS.
ReplyDeleteGuys don't go to that website, I was there reading the comments and OMG. I saw the supposed Jiyeon boobies and pu*** there. They posted it without any censor.......
ReplyDeletethe girl indeed looks like Jiyeon, but have so many people alike in this world.......
So swearing means you're arrogant enough to be kick out of a pop group? We would have many pop stars left if that was the case. Nice try KKS.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't Kks lol it was a fan. The website isn't even the one he owns.
plus, this proves she was not polite with the members/staff. He said she left because of her bad behavior and because she didn't go on M countdown stage...
and if you say this video proves nothing, why do you believe the videos about T-ara members and the edited pictures? lol funny.
No, she not being rude to staff. Nothing in those contexts says she's being rude to staff. She didn't perform because she was injured and the rest of the girl treated her like crap. I'm not talking about the pics, I'm talking about those passive aggressive tweets + from the ones from her twin and the rap coach telling them off (or did you choose to ignore those too?).
Deletethose cyworld entries are old and she probably didn't realize she was on camera. I'm sure all your oppas and unnies cuss
ReplyDeleteShe knew she was on camera... all 7 of them did those interview things one after the other. She also did it. She just didn't care, she's very arrogant. If she would do something like that on camera even after being asked to stop... you can only imagine what a terror she is off screen.
ReplyDeleteAre you 10? People swear on tv. This is not brand new information, nor is it enough be labelled as arrogant.
DeleteThe girl might have a potty mouth but does that mean she should be ostracize by the group? (according to rumors anyway)
ReplyDeleteAgree a girl swearing isn't as bad as the webcam or the "sex machine" thing. I'm not picking a side and support someone either way tho.
Now they're going to dig for t-ara swearing moments, not a smart move on their OP's part.
ReplyDeleteAnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 4:20 PM
ReplyDeleteThe twitter showed they bullied her? No. They just told how not determined she was.
They were angry, true, very immature, but just this twitter doesn't show they are bullies, and the ones who force them to perform injuried is KKS.
her sister posted thta yes, but it is her sister she wouldn't be against her sister.
The pd said it wasn't about T-ara, if you don't remember.
Yes, it did. They ganged up on her to publicly humiliated her when she was injured. THAT IS BULLYING.
DeleteI didn't say her sister posted against her, I said her twin and her rap coach told t-ara off. Go read those tweet again please.
The staff admitted she was locked out out of the dressing room, what are you talking about?
Now that we know Hwayoung has a filthy mouth, it makes sense that someone who worked with Shinsadong Tiger said Hwayoung swore at Boram a lot and was difficult to work with.
ReplyDelete^ were you heard that?! have links?
ReplyDeleteSeptember 17, 2012 4:30 PM:
ReplyDeleteso everyone who talks bad about someone on twitter is a bully now, heh? All i-fans and K-fans are bullies. They are always talking bad about someone. So, we, who are talking bad about either t-ara or Hwayoung are bullies too.
The staff admitted she was locked out?
No. don't twist the story. She saw Hwayoung was out crying but she didn't know if Hwyaoung didn't want to enter or was locked out. Also, it is hard to the dress room be locked since staff enter and go all the time, and it was also a rumor.
Have a lot of rumors talking bad abou Hwayoung but why do you believe just the ones who talks bad about T-ara?
DeleteWhy? Because I trust Koreans when they spot wanggta bullying from a mile away, since they all dealt with it in some ways. Bullying in Korea Japan isn't as physical/verbal as bullying in the west.
Isolation= bullying
Public humiliation = bullying
I'm sorry you're so blind.
lol this is getting more interesting... it'd be funny if public turn into t-ara's favor. mwahahaha.
ReplyDeletei personally don't think any bullying ever happen, but OUTCASTING is most likely to happen since it's just... given like that. i really hate seeing hwayoung suddenly got many "supports", all only because they want to stab t-ara, not more and not less. like i've said before, both sides are btchs anyway. i want to throw up at every people try to make "hwayoung-unnie" like an angel, meeeehhhhh. thanks to whoever posted this. hah.
^ not blind just saying that then we all are bullies. Don't you think so?
ReplyDeletePeople cheer for the underdog, this isn't new nor isn't something to be angry over.
DeleteIf you're interested:
waegukin(.)com/bullying-in-korean-schools-and-wangtta.html
Lol. You trust K-Netizen? Korean themselves are bullies. It's in their culture. In tablo scandal, the person who harrased him is 57 years old. Wow.
ReplyDeleteAll I said was I trust them to spot one out. Obliviously bullying is wrong.
DeleteQueen's rejoicing for another smear campaign against Hwayoung. Yay!
ReplyDeleteKKS holy words about Hwayoung weren't enough to save T-ara so this should do the magic, yay the T-itanic is back on working again! T-ara to the top, overtake 2ne1!!11
Wasn't Eunjung also under fire when she supposedly cussed while guesting on IY season 1? I don't think this is enough for the tables to turn in favor for T-Ara..
ReplyDeleteI always like reading the comments on this site, it has people saying "omg k-netizens, so stupid" etc when there are people here who can say Hwayoung is "rotten to the core" and she deserved to be bullied because she swore. lol. was she rude? yes. does this bring any kind of insight to the bullying case? no. but what can you expect from the people who believed the umbrella thing. this is just severely blown out of proportion.
ReplyDeleteLol. You trust K-Netizen? Korean themselves are bullies. It's in their culture. In tablo scandal, the person who harrased him is 57 years old. Wow.
ReplyDeleteHum? But there is a video, there is a way to this be a rumor, it is a fact lol
Nobody wins here. All this does is create more tension between Queens and antis which results in Hwayoung's reputation being damaged and T-ara not becoming any more popular.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how swearing can be labelled arrogant.
ReplyDelete^^
ReplyDeleteAnon @ 5:03: you're free to disagree with people, but when you stereotype an entire group of people (on a Korean pop culture website nonetheless) you're making yourself look uninformed.
^
ReplyDeletepretty much that.
The girl swear but that just mean she have a potty mouth. It doesn't necessarily mean she's a bad person.
AnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 5:06 PM
ReplyDelete^^
Anon @ 5:03: you're free to disagree with people, but when you stereotype an entire group of people (on a Korean pop culture website nonetheless) you're making yourself look uninformed.
the first part of my comment it wasn't me who wrote it... I was quoting the comment above. I only said ''
Hum? But there is a video, there is a way to this be a rumor, it is a fact lol''
So what if she swears, who the hell doesn't? I don't have a stand on this bullying issue because there are clearly not enough solid evidence, but saying that just because Hwayoung swears, it is a reason for T-ara to bully or outcast her? Pathetic much?
ReplyDelete"I don't have a stand on this bullying issue because there are clearly not enough solid evidence, but saying that just because Hwayoung swears, it is a reason for T-ara to bully or outcast her? Pathetic much?"
ReplyDeleteYou already make your own assumption even the bullying issue is just a rumor.
^ lol noy it but it proves what they said about her being RUDE to the staff and members.
ReplyDeleteNo, she just talking among friends
Delete^
ReplyDeleteThe video doesn't show her cussing to the staffs or members. She said "That's fucking hilarious!" so it sound like it's her conversation with someone close to her. There're alot of people cuss in their casual conversation with people they're close with. The cussing was also playful with her sister too.
I'm not taking a side on the Hwayoung or T-ara issue but this isn't that much of an evidence either unless there's a video of her actually cussing and being mean to staffs.
^ Hwayoung was talking with friends? They were in a dressing room, she was in japan so I don't think her friends were there and her sister also wasn't.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it is rude to be talking that loudly, worse yet swearing when the camera is on and someone is interviewing another person. It isn't polite to be talking like that ruining the interview. Not respectful with the member and the reporter doing the interview.
ALso, not polite to not her unnie (eujung is older so Hwayoung should respect her more) but she didn't stay quiet after Eujung asked to..
how is this not rude?
If it wasn't rude Eujung wouldn't try to make her stop.
She wasn't in a date with her friends, she was working and should behave.
iT was rude.
Read comprehension...you don't have it.
DeleteSo what? Stop fooling!
ReplyDeleteI feel that Queens are always full of fool thoughts.
^ lol you mad?
ReplyDelete"You already make your own assumption even the bullying issue is just a rumor."
ReplyDeleteOh gawd, it's like explaining ABC's to a little child. Let me clarify for you, kid...just like how there are no solid evidence in the T-ara bullying case, there are also no solid evidence in Hwayoung being a horrible person. Sure, netizens dug up clips of what seemed to be some members of T-ara bullying Hwayoung, but that's not enough evidence to accuse Hwayoung of being bullied or outcasted. The umbrella clip, for example, was totally taken out of proportion. And just as how this recent issue of Hwayoung cussing has been revealed, this also does not mean Hwayoung was a rude or hard member to work with (which was supposedly why she was kicked out). So in conclusion, I was trying to make a statement that there are not enough evidence on both sides.
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ReplyDeleteSuch a thing call a phone exist? :|
You know that thing that let her talk long distance to people that are far away from her?
She could also be friend with the coordis or w/e. The point is she cussed but it sound like conversations among people she know, not like she was screaming at staffs OMG FUCK YOU GUYS!!
Well I guess that would explain why boram doesn't follow hwayoung...
ReplyDeleteIDK WHY THIS SITE DOESN'T LET REPLY BUTTON WORK WHEN YOU'RE ON BROWSER~ >:(
ReplyDeleteok sorry September 17, 2012 5:53 PM was a reply to September 17, 2012 5:42 PM
I don't understand. Some I-netizens are always bashing K-netizens for being so damn nitpicky about celebrities and their actions (especially idols). And when it comes to something like this, an idol cussing INDIRECTLY to a camera, some I-netizens become just as mindfucked and nitpicky. Sort your fucking standards out.
ReplyDelete^ i agree completely. i feel the same way.
ReplyDeleteso now if you swear then you're a gangster... swearing is not pretty but I bet ALL OF US had cuss at least once in our lives... I thought most of i-netizens were in some sort different or at least less critical than the great part of k-netizens that always blow things out of proportion but I nope...
ReplyDeleteAnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 6:01 PM
ReplyDeleteI don't understand. Some I-netizens are always bashing K-netizens for being so damn nitpicky about celebrities and their actions (especially idols). And when it comes to something like this, an idol cussing INDIRECTLY to a camera, some I-netizens become just as mindfucked and nitpicky. Sort your fucking standards out.
^ IKR?!
Your translator sucks.
ReplyDeleteOh, Queen's, these tactics are so pathetic!
ReplyDeleteokay hwa swearing on camera(even though she wasn't literally in the camera view)---compared to jyieon's webcam girl---hyomin's sex parties or whatever it is------which one sound's worse
ReplyDeleteHonestly, can't netizens just let this die already? I'm a fan of T-ara but I don't want Hwayoung to be attacked too. They both made mistakes and have apologized and suffered enough for it. Please just stop netizens...
ReplyDeleteI knew Hwayoung was a total BITCH LOL
ReplyDeleteT-ara are good girls, they never did something bad like hwayoung.
Pure T-ara hwaiting !
gurl
DeleteT-ara is already over!.. This reality won't change a bit.
ReplyDeleteThis reminds me of SNSD's Tiffany and her pre-debut account where she was cussing like crazy. I don't see how it makes them bad people to be honest, especially since it's a convo with their friends and not actually cussing someone (Like Areum's rumor/scandal of her cussing Luna). The video would've been a problem if it was intentional, but she sounds like she was talking with someone on the phone because we don't hear anyone interacting with her.
ReplyDelete^ or maybe she was playing/watching something on her phone, ipad, laptop, etc. either way, i don't think it's a big deal.
ReplyDeleteWho release the video? Seen video. comments "could be HWA or not, swearing"
ReplyDeletemaybe i can't hear as well as everyone else, but how did you determine that was hwayoung cussing? and how did you determine eunjung telling her to hush?
ReplyDelete영어로 번역하니 쎄게 느껴지네요. 엄마새끼 아빠새끼 이건 새끼가 baby니까 말장난하는거고. 평범한 10대들 사이에서 쉽게 들을수있는 수위의 욕인듯. For those people who don't speak Korean, what she said/wrote doesn't sound that harsh in Korean. The swear words 씨발, 존나, 새끼 are what every Korean teenager says. Though I'm gonna be kind of disappointed if she really said 씨발 while cameras were rolling. She was very careless
ReplyDeleteKorean subtitles for that video clip is a pure fabrication.
ReplyDeleteand also it doesn't sound like Hwayoung's voice.
And? Still doesn't justify t-ara bullying a member out of the group.
ReplyDeleteTotally off topic but does the "reply" button work for anyone else? It never works me and I have tried using many different browsers. :(
ReplyDeleteThere's a big difference between cursing and actively trying to destroy someone. Everyone curses, even picture perfect idols.
ReplyDeleteBut not all of them ostracize someone, try to choke them with rice cakes, and publicly humiliate them on Twitter by saying they lack "determination".
when it is about Hwayoung people came up with so many excuses for her, and how they don't believe it, but if it was another member of T-ara, shit was going to be huge.
ReplyDelete^ just stating the facts, my dear. just stating the facts...
ReplyDeleteAny time that someone paints ANY celebrity as the goody two-shoes and ANY other celebrity as the "evil team", you ALWAYS know for sure that's it's a fucking bullshit circus. There's two sides to every story. Neither T-ara nor Hwayoung are angels, but none of them deserve the extreme amounts of butthurt faggotry they're copping from netizens. Why they can't just either listen to the music, or not, is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteSad also that people still going on about rice cakes. Shut up faggots. That was cleared up - it was for a game show. Jiyeon had a fucking rice cake shoved down her gob too but no-one complained about that. Ahhh - the power of out-of-context so-called "evidence".
Why they keep digging the past... Both fans should stop, they only make t-ara and hwayoung look bad
ReplyDelete^
ReplyDelete^ did you even watch the video itself? understand the concept of batsu game? or the situation at that time? eunjung's team lost, hwayoung's team won - eunjung's punishment is to feed a rice cake to one of the winning team... did not specify WHO to feed or HOW to feed - puts what eunjung did in perspective don't you think?
t-ara fans refutes evidences they don't know anything about. and also refuting photo evidences is not refuting anything... t-ara bullying is evident in the little things like their group dynamics and how they treat hwayoung... watch t-ara's star life theater and observe how they 'alienate' hwayoung from the group - evident even in the opening, and no it's not just hyomin 'accidentally' hitting her.
Tony moly didn't renew t-ara contract because they're 'bullies' but they just hire women beater to endorse their product. Yeah, right. Oppar didn't mean it. Hypocrisy at its best.
ReplyDeletei'm on hwayoung sides,i'm an expert in judging ppl personality,i've never been wrong,those t-ara members except qri are bitches
ReplyDelete"i'm an expert in judging ppl personality,i've never been wrong'
ReplyDeleteStop making fun of yourself
lol this is pretty much bullshit.......if this was real they find it ages ago........
ReplyDeletehow am i making fun of myself? lol,do you know me personally? no right? i bet you are one of those delusional queen
ReplyDeletesomehow i feel like this is t-ara's fans last attempt at salvaging the situation for t-ara by trying to fabricate or at least dig up some dirt about hwa. and this is all they could come up with? her swearing compared to jiyeon stripping on camera and hyomin being a gangster with crazy sex life is far worse than any dirt they could find about hwa. so this isn't going to help salvage any of what little reputation t-ara had left.queens don't seem to understand that t-ara is hated on not solely based on the bullying rumors. many more people are thinking they are bad influences based on their bad rep say jiyeon stripping and hyomin being a badass and going to sex meetings screwing men for cigarettes or money.
ReplyDeleteDespite the controversy, T-ara is still doing great in sales (Top10-20 in chart). Queen's are satisfied. No reason to fabricate stories. Lol.
ReplyDeleteThey'll gain back their reputation.
time will tell everything... no matter people tried to turn the table, T-ara still have CCM behind them and Hwa is all alone...
ReplyDeletewe'll see what will happen in the future...
LOL stupid people here still support hwa,,all Kqueen's and people work on entertainment industry know who hwayoung really is,,she is just spoiled brat,,,no management wants to take her,,tjinyo lost 9000 members yesterday,,and u still trust their so called evidence,,u trust 15 years old kid yeah stupid idiot enough
ReplyDeleteMust be kks work again. Wen hwa left he's like I'm not gonna say anything tat she did n a few hours later he's like she's rude she causes trouble. N probably tis is just another work of kks
ReplyDeleteLOL.. pity you. Actually I respect this blog bcs they were like honest and have a interesting news. But this? LOL.. maybe KKS play his role by making things. Don't be sorry.. Yeah, we all do curse each other.. Maybe at that time, Hwayoung really fed up with the others because they bullied her and at that time she realize how hypocrite they are. Have faith, this is just one of the "stupid proof". Whatever it is, my love for T-Ara is already gone.. for ever.. Whatever wrong Hwayoung did to them or want to make them emberassed infront of the camera. It's maybe because of here's no patience left to see those hypocrite being nice infront of the camera. Ok bye. Have faith again, please..
ReplyDelete"how am i making fun of myself? lol,do you know me personally? no right? i bet you are one of those delusional queen"
ReplyDeleteSo you know T-ara, each one of them individually?
Stop judging people.
say that to yourself :)
ReplyDeleteAnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 11:27 PM
ReplyDelete"Tony moly didn't renew t-ara contract because they're 'bullies' but they just hire women beater to endorse their product. Yeah, right. Oppar didn't mean it. Hypocrisy at".
what? i dont even like JYJ i dont even find them attractive but i get why jaeejong suposedly beat a girl.. BTW the so called victim clarified that he never hotted her it was just like what we see in dramas when the sunbae hits the dongsaeng in the head...
anyway i dare u not to beat someone who enters ur house, steal ur clothes, marks ur door with blood, hits u and touch u in an inappropriate way, cause u car accidents so they can see touch u, and even threat ur family and friends cause that person wants u, lets see if u can handle that for like 10 years...
anyway.. like i said before.. I dont think T-ara r angels, i also think they bullied hwayoung, but i also think we should not juts blame T-ara, i mean KKS made them compete to each other, so if a member feels threatened then she is gona do whatever to survive, yes its sad but the biggest culprit here is KKS
Here is the link for Full clip.
ReplyDeleteIf you buy all 3 version of Jewelry Box, you will get this clip :) It's a bonus special DVD released in Japan :)
It was made when Hwayoung was still a member in T-ara.
The uploader only upload a small part of this DVD. As they say:
"３形態購入特典DVDのメンバーコメント。
色々な人に全てを見せたいのですが、特別な購入特典・・・
一部しかアップしないのでご容赦ください。"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcXVs3WDtqE
Believe in what you heard in this clip, nobody's perfect. Don't you ever say that This clip is fake again :) thank you!!
I don't remember anybody saying Hwayoung was perfect. Just that she was the victim of outcasting. The third one at CCM in recent years, BTW.
ReplyDeleteEven if the swearing stories are true, that doesn't make Hwayoung a bad person, just imperfect and maybe somewhat rude. If anything, it should help her in her new rapping career.
I bet if any T-ara's members had said it then Netizens comments would be "as expected from them" but since it not T-ara, all top idols swears and it's common!! I dont wanna clarify T-ara because I believe in them and so does all Queens!! Lets just be fair enough!! If its given for all idols including Hwayoung then why so bad-treatment for T-ara???
ReplyDeleteIt's not whether cursing is normal or not. It's that she is an idol and have a reputation to uphold. She can't just go around cursing in public.
ReplyDeleteWell, to the people saying its totally normal for her to curse, Fuck you then :) and to those who think you have the right to judge T-ara or anyone else, judge yourself first.
ReplyDeleteyeah, i have same thoughts but if you go on defending about T-ara here and say it would be okay for them too, OMG!! I cant imagine how these netizens here would explode so I was asking them what they thought!! Of course, it's not a good thing to swear on rolling camera being a Youth Icon!!
ReplyDeleteBoth of t-ara and hwayoung is not perfect,
ReplyDeleteSo please stop to treat t-ara like the only one who did a mistakes
And please stop to treat hwayoung like the only one who's not guilty.
Be tolerant ok ?!.
I'm not queens, I'm just felt sorry for them, they're scorned and humiliated Whereas hwayoung get sympathy and support. Please don't be provoked by the antis, please stop this because t-ara also a human :)
Wasn't hwayoung and boram in a bad relationship tho? Thats probably why she cursed when boram was doing her interview. Bad move hwayoung. I would be so pissed if i were boram lmao
ReplyDeleteso people cant swear now ? MANY MALE IDOLS SWORE directly to fans not just having fun conv like hwayoung and swaering here and there but NO MALE IDOLA CAN SWEAR TO FANS but female idols just cant swear AT ALL even in thier conv with friends , Yeah KKS is TRYING VERY HARD , PATHETIC !!
ReplyDeletepeople are judging her by saying that " I knew she was Bitch " so you said she was bitch before ? isnt that bad mouthing and isulting dont you guys always say the " F" word ALOT in you life and on Internet ALL THE TIME !! HYPOCRITE INDEED
ReplyDeletei love this scandal. so damn interesting.
ReplyDeleteIf Hwayoung swears like this...imagine how much Hyomin swears!
ReplyDeleteWait...actually nevermind, Hyomin would probably have a dick in her mouth LOL
^ thing is, you can't find a video with Hyomin swearing like this, hummm, no need to be this low.
ReplyDeletemakes you no better.
The reason why i like T-ara cause they are bitchy!!!! but I also feel sorry to Hwayoung-she doesnt deserve any-bullying-things from those bitchy girls. anyway, what's wrong with "fuckin hilarious". i don't think tha's rude though use f*ck. sometimes we use damn, sh*t for something that we really adore-to express how we speechless on it
ReplyDeleteI can't be the only who thinks Netizen Buzz needs to disable anon commenting
ReplyDeleteI can't be the only who thinks Netizen Buzz needs to disable anon commenting
ReplyDelete^ you're an anon.....
ReplyDelete^ logged in and show your face first before you said that.
ReplyDeletebesides, even if i used my wp/lj account... it doesn't need any verification? everyone can use it later so i'd rather not use it anyway...
In what crazy world is underage webcam stripping and selling sex for cigarettes acceptable, but conversational swearing is a moral shortcoming?
ReplyDeleteI really don't understand what these T-ara defenders are thinking!! Oh wait! I do know! They're just KKS puppets. He gives the order to kick the victim while she's down, and like robots, they obey.
^ totally agree with you. Queens are dumb to anything that is against their believe even if there are sufficient evidence. And if any of them is claiming that the strip cam and the hyomin account is untrustworthy, needs a serious dose of reality check because there are legit evidences to back up those claims including the web cam footage itself and hyomin's email account still associated to the account of the female in question in which she still uses today..!!! sad thing is queens choose to support someone who has such low moral while cussing a teen who is evidently caught cussing thinking it is the end of the world....
ReplyDeletenobody expected hwayoung to be perfect. so her cussing did not come as a shock, so to use this against her as evidence of her bad behavior and justifying t-ara's actions isn't making much sense. since when did swearing warrant getting outcasted and bullied? i'm pretty sure all t-ara members cuss, just that they act like angels on camera. they are being condemned for their bullying, outcasting of fellow member and for past behaviors like webcam stripping and whoring. that is not something that should be overlooked or supported. for queens to say they will support and love t-ara not matter what is dumb and also in support of these bad behaviors. some queens on akp even went as far as to say that even if t-ara members were to really bully and kill someone they would still support and love them because they are loyal fans. That is not being a loyal fan, that is being a blind and dumb fan. if you support murder and bullying then what if one day it happens to someone close to you? don't even say it can't happen because anything could happen. and yes everyone makes mistakes, but some mistakes are more forgivable then others, stripping at 13? whoring for cigarettes and money? bullying? those are not something to be shielded and condoned. so what if someone is caught swearing? does that justify getting bullied and outcasted?
ReplyDelete^Yeah T-ara is bad. So, what?? Lol
ReplyDeleteJust keep your morals to yourself.
We just want to listen to T-ara music. Is that so hard to understand?
I agree with u :)
DeleteYou guys judge people just because their past ?? Oh my god i don't believe that ! Ok maybe you're holy man and maybe you're so perfect and never made a mistakes in your past. So you disfigure them like you guys are sacred, did you guys know what is called human rights? Or you guys just an animal ?? Please stop to insult them and look at yourself are you perfect guys ??????????? I think No !!
ReplyDeleteSo, I like T-ara music, and like Eujung, so I defend their bullying case because I don't think it is true.
ReplyDeleteSure, an underage stripping in front of a webcam and other selling sex for cigarettes isn't right, actually I don't really care about Hyomin or Jiyeon.........
So now, WHY do you generalize all the T-ara members? Jiyeon and Hyomin are the ones with their past.
Actually Jiyeon can be some stupid teen thing, since teen do stupid things all the time, but Hyomin seemed to really have a not so good past.
But how is that you them hate on them all, as if the entire T-ara is Hyomin and Jiyeon?
Then is it right to say all Big Bang are deliquents and sluts guys? lol please guys!
Everyone swears...but damn. I don't think people swear that much to their friends and call them bitches.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how this makes her "rude" because these people are obviously her friends and twin sister. I don't playfully call my colleagues "bitch" or playfully tell them to "fuck off" because THAT would be rude even if I see them almost every day, but I do tell my best friends to fuck off because I'm close with them and I love these bitches as much as I know they love me.
ReplyDeleteIt's just unfortunate that her convo got caught on cam even though it's hard to hear her actual words. She wasn't careful obviously and it's not "idol" like, but that's just the thing: it's just not "ideal" for an idol. As for T-ara, bullying, stripping on cam, and whoring yourself to old men for dares and cigarettes is unacceptable even if you're not an idol. The things against T-ara are pretty fucked up. oops! just cursed again, how rude of me :p
^ Nah.. I still love them.
ReplyDeleteAntis, You should try harder
I think stripping on webcam is a fucking boss move, and more k-pop idols should do it. Someone's gotta teach those uptight sexually conservative Korean youth what a bare shoulder blade looks like. Cigs are overpriced too, if you're addicted, get 'em any way you can, fuck it. Fucking heroes, those two. Don't think they bullied Hwayoung though, reads those tweets in context and you can see what's really going on - they're having a private joke about KKS working them too hard. Read it again and use your fucking head, you'll see it. Hwayoung probably took the joke the wrong way because she's got a reason to feel guilty - she'd been slack lately. Anyway T-ara are great and I really like the whole punk attitude they got going right now of "fuck em we'll perform anyway". Netizens deserve to be unhappy and T-ara are doing an excellenet job of making them miserable.
ReplyDeleteok. so apparently in KKS (and some fans)opinion, swearing is more serious than stripping on camera and going to sex parties.
ReplyDeletehwayoung better off be a solo rapper than an idol so that she can put swearing words when writing her raps. and people can't complain much coz she's not an idol anymore. xD
Can someone link me to the Hyomin suicide petition?
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