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Tuesday, April 14, 2015

KBS and MBC claim they'll be keeping Jang Dong Min on air as is


Article: MBC and KBS both reps, "Jang Dong Min will not be leaving the shows, to air as is"

Source: OSEN via Nate

MBC, "Jang Dong Min's recent controversy has nothing to do with the show and his leave has not been discussed. He will continue to remain on the show."

KBS, "He wil be aired as is without editing."

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1. [+234, -66] At this point, Jang Dong Min is a victim of a witch hunt. He's wrong, that's for sure, but something he already apologized for in the past was brought up into a controversy again all because he's about to be the Sixth Man ㅋㅋㅋ I think it would've been fun if he was chosen as the Sixth Man and I'm honestly upset. Nobody can fill that spot better than him.

2. [+161, -46] Jang Dong Min, live hard~! Life isn't just about yourself so always be thankful to those around you. Fighting! Jang Dong Min!!

3. [+134, -42] There is not one show that is voluntarily talking about taking Jang Dong Min off their show. That means in real life, he's a real man's man ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+16, -5] Enough's enough. He's already missing out on a huge opportunity that is 'Infinity Challenge', it's wrong of us to want to take him off of other shows as well. He must have learned from this and I hope he renews his character.

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Article
: 'Infinity Challenge' reps, "We're not sure what to do about Jang Dong Min's request to leave"

Source: TV Report via Nate

1. [+431, -47] If the producers accept his request to leave, then they should get rid of the Sixth Man project and keep it as five with simple guests. I have had it with the other nominees with all this media play.

2. [+380, -101] Please, just keep him on this once. Don't be swayed by a noisy minority. Learn to be brave and to take the hate. He's already apologized enough. Yeah he said some hard things but enough's enough.

3. [+255, -56] I'd rather Yoo Byung Jae since he doesn't have an agency

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Source:
Naver

1. [+12,713, -1,973] There's no one else left to pick now so don't pick a Sixth Man at all

2. [+9,710, -2,460] Are you all happy now

3. [+7,854, -1,545] Knowing Taeho PD, he's going to accept the request ㅠ What a shame ㅠ

4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over

5. [+2,597, -394] People are making this big of a fuss over picking one celebrity for a TV show, why don't we make this big of a fuss when electing our president?

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260 comments:

  1. I stopped watching Infinity Challenge because the Sixth Man project is just way too boring. Hopefully it ends soon.

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  2. imagine if a female idol (or whatever) did it instead of him

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  3. fuck him. stop trying to shield comedians.

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  4. Im not too clear with this issue... someone please explain to me...

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  5. "2. [+9,710, -2,460] Are you all happy now"


    No. I will be happy when he fucks off tv for good.

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  6. The sixth man project are too long, they should have ended early and choose 1 person. This makes all parties agitated and now all a mess T-T

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  7. Everyone (well the Koreans) knew that he made misogynistic comments in the past but someone (people are claiming it's someone with power) brought it back up and it's all over the internet again with articles and it fueled a witch hunt and he's apologizing again. Basically, someone's out to get him.

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  8. Please stop T-ara's witch hunt

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  9. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over



    Are you fucking kidding me? From what I know, what he said is more than a simple "joke"

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  10. I seriously cannot fathom the logic of Knetz. How is talking shit about female is only considered as 19+ rated jokes??

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  11. Whaaaaaat? The nominees were so funny especially the woman hahahahahahah

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  12. At first I thought this sixth man will be so interesting and it will and a new unpredictable factor to infinity challenge which has been going on for so long. I just don't get why they keep making so many episodes of them choosing candidates that it's getting boring.

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  13. i just want to.









    https://33.media.tumblr.com/f7aceafe90e8e1621b9b822424a0437a/tumblr_nklzhr77RZ1u3ha0mo1_400.gif

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  14. i don't know about 'five days ago' controversy but k-netz did say the right thing. the 'jokes' jang dong min created was about a year ago, when he joked about his coordi/a woman who's close with him.

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  15. wht a joke. should have keep him banned instead tsk

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  16. how lucky is it to be a man in korea.

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  17. people???are????not?????makin????a?????big?????deal?????he????is?????disgusting??????????????????????????????

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  18. "he's a real man's man "
    I just threw up a little.

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  19. so basically a year (?) ago jang dong min made some really gross misogynist statements (like the shit he said was absolutely terrible), and it's being brought to light now. people are saying that a rival agency is trashing him bc he might become the sixth man for infinite challenge, but basically it just started a witch hunt and everything's chaotic
    personally i found that the things he said were absolutely disgusting and doesn't deserve to be shielded but yeah

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  20. If it's something we should move on, wh aren't ya'll moving on from T-ara?

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  21. Men are rape lovers.


    Hey, they implied it, not me! I'm just reporting what they said!

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  22. I wonder which case is more serious... Yewon's victim cosplay or Jang Dong Mins misogynistic comments...

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  23. I'd rather they keep the members as 5 instead of putting Jang Dong Min in since he's so similar to Park Myung Soo. Why would you need 2 of the same character in a variety show? They are supposed to complement each other

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  24. definitely, it has been 2 months and most candidates are trying too hard

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  25. Can't believe people are still supporting this disgusting guy after what he did...

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  26. That "joke" consists of him grilling the woman's intestines. If that doesn't make people question his sanity then hell if i know what will.

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  27. http://i.imgur.com/pRJfgXW.gif

    I'm done here... See y'all tomorrow.

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  28. No. Conservative Korea has to be the only country were sorry excuses for men are allowed to show their faces on t.v.

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  29. there was a female comedian that abused animals and bragged about it on radio, i don't see no witch hunt for her

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  30. she got so much hate for that and comments months later brought it up

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  31. silly goose T-ara are women they deserve all the hate they get/s

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  32. So they're willing to let his fucked up ass comments go but T-ara is still getting hate over something that was never proved.

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  33. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over

    Hmm...I think it's "Conservative Korea" that isnallowing comments about women to be okay and nothing to fuss over. Meanwhile, the less conservative countries will be the ones to DRAG a celeb for saying such things in the modern day.

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  34. Yes there was. She got hate and she still continues to get hate from that, even getting requests to get taken off Happy Together since she's not funny anymore (btw, the female comedian is Kim Shin Young).

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  35. Plus the other comedian admitted how he attempted rape but the plan failed...

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  36. All I can think of when I see things like this is T-ARA.

    They'll never be forgiven for made-up bullying fantasies, but men are repeatedly forgiven and rewarded for misogyny.

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  37. He's a misogynist to his core so he won't be able to resist saying something disgusting again in the future. And the moment he does, the "it's all in the past!" excuse won't work anymore.

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  38. Isn't she already gone

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  39. Misogynistic murder fantasies are not jokes.

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  40. shielding comedians but hating on female idols.....

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  41. I can't believe the netizens care more about the cast of a tv show...

    When will Korea stand up for their women?

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  42. The double standards are at their peak.

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  43. You see a lot of people complaining about the fucked up judicial system and how someone will go to jail for blackmail but not for abuse or rape. Yet no one is to be found when men like them normalize rape and abuse and people are defending it.

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  44. that's why i wrote it as 'joke' not joke.

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  45. dude literally and unequivocally said that women's brains were inferior to men's and that the ideal woman should be locked away from society and kept a virgin until her 30s.


    and now he's receiving lavish praise.


    i wonder how many popular idols think this way, but are "smart" enough to keep their mouths closed? i imagine it has to be difficult to be raised in this kind of environment and come out with respectable views.

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  46. Right? It's not 19+ dirty lewd joke. It's his deeply misguided misogynistic opinion that should be set straight. He thinks women are inherently dumb. I feel sorry for his would be wife and I hope he never has a daughter.

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  47. It's hilarious how these korean netizens detest Yewon for playing the victim card while fully welcomes this asshole's misogynistic comments.

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  48. All of the main broadcast channels in South Korea are going down the drain these days. From ilbe controversies, to this. They're all a mess.

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  49. No just idols but really just men.
    It really makes you wonder.

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  50. the double standard with yewon though....

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  51. its not a fucking witch hunt. he said all these offensive things and there's no excuse to be let off! i like the man for he is funny but the whole radio convo thing was so disgusting.

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  52. the female cast on infinity girls got tons of heat for sexually harassing andy


    and like pooperscooper said, kim shin young still gets hate for that, while kim tae hyun said it was "just a joke" and all was forgiven....

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  53. Guk Ju would be slaughtered.....I mean just look at the hate train when Hani made the "I bet this on my mother" joke.....yet having a penis makes it OK?

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  54. Oh i'm sure every male idol group has at least one member who's a misogynist pig. Some have already outed themselves (CAP, Shidnong, Aron, etc.)

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  55. i'm pretty sure she's getting hate in HT bc she's not funny not bc of ppl talking about her animal abuse. i don't see her hate getting so large that KBS has to respond to it. and this was long time ago and she still getting gigs

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  56. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over



    Next time you get raped, you let us know so that we can make a 19+ rated joke and have a good laugh about it.

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  57. Hell, they even allow murderers who hid the body to still be on television so.

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  58. The ep 422 is pretty hilarious though. I laughed so hard at hong jin kyung.

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  59. You Shouldn't Do ThatApril 14, 2015 at 2:39 AM

    Issue Aside: Whichever 6th Man candidate triggered this situation is about to be exiled from tv for a long time. I don't know if it was Kwanghee or the long haired guy from Noel, but fucking with MuDo was a death sentence for them.

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  60. it being from a long time ago doesn't change the fact he's a misogynist

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  61. This whole thing has made me realize that Korea really, REALLY needs feminism.

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  62. I wonder how these netizens would react if it was their mother someone was threatening to murder, or discussing rape plans about.

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  63. [+234, -66] At this point, BOM/T-ARA are victims of a witch hunt. They're wrong, that's for sure, but something they already apologized for in the past was brought up into a controversy again all because they're female idols ㅋㅋㅋ I think it would've been fun if they were allowed to promote in Korea without assholes calling them druggies and bullies every 3 seconds



    JUST IMAGINE

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  64. I bet if they said something as malicious as this about men in public, they would have been literally attacked and publicly shamed for eternity. Just look at what happened to that woman who said guys shorter than 180cm are "losers" on that one show. She couldn't even stay at her new job because of all the slander and gossip from her co-workers.

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  65. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over
    Hahaha u should read inetz comments on how fucked up he is a

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  66. i remember in beatles code when crayon pop was invited he was asking a member if she would date him.and then ellin answer him appearance matters. and i think of it and iam like yes my queen show him!!!

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1uy0sj_eng-sub-beatles-code-3d-crayon-pop-orange-caramel-8-apr-2014_people

    as for the comments they are out of their minds...they still hate on t-ara girls..for something that never happend..

    http://35.img.v4.skyrock.net/3109/85133109/pics/3164181578_1_4_2AlfXMyT.gif

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  67. How lucky is it to be a man anywhere.

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  68. i remember in beatles code when crayon pop was invited they was asking a member if she would date him.and then ellin answer him appearance matters. and i think of it and iam like yes my queen show him!!!

    http://www.dailymotion.com/vid...

    as for the comments they are out of their minds...they still hate on t-ara girls..for something that never happend..

    http://35.img.v4.skyrock.net/3...

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  69. jang dong min has always been running his mouth, talking about how women need to behave and keep themselves in "check" especially around the presence of a male (the sort you'd expect from an misogynistic asshole) but people have always been excusing his behavior since he's a comedian and it's "just a joke"...then a year ago, he said all sorts of bs about his stylist, talking about how he wanted to kill her.....then less than a week ago, an article comes out with lady jane talking about how whenever she, jang dong min and the rest of the radio staff go out for dinner and he hears females talking, he tells them to be quiet.

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  70. The comments... Damn.
    [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a
    gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over.

    It takes someone with a sick humor to just laugh over a rape plan and other derogatory comments about women and treat as a "joke".

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  71. Could these knetz please stop, why in the world are they shielding his comments by the excuse it happened a long time ago so It doesn't matter as soon as they get someone who is "funny" on the show and can be entertained.
    Do they also think women are beneath men so who cares if he "jokes" about it or what.

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  72. You're not a comedian when your "jokes" aren't funny.

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  73. I'd love to know the ratio of the upvotes on both cases and see how even the split of women is in both of them

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  74. waiting4indiansummerApril 14, 2015 at 2:54 AM

    oh my GOD...now...he's the victim....? learn to be brave?.....fighting?...swayed by noisy minority?? happy now?...
    improvement for every article comments....
    improvement towards shittier shiets.....idk what to say....this is just too funny....i know they don't represent Korea n all countries have their shiets n all but at this rate...they're the only representatives of society there that can be seen from all over the world n seriously...they're really painting an ugly picture of the dominant mindset there n i just....at this rate....i just keep laughing even though it's not funny at all....that's how fked up all these are.
    those people are just as sicko as he is....

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  75. when did i say he's not???

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  76. 3. [+134, -42] There is not one show that is voluntarily talking about
    taking T-ara off their show. That means in real life, they're just too good ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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  77. "sexually harassing andy" well, there you go. they pulled that shit on public broadcast, ofc they got heat. where do you see kim shin young getting hate for that? please post the knetz responses and maybe i will change my opinion

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  78. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country
    that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over


    wow... so for koreans any disgusting terrible thing that a comedian says is a "19+ joke"? disgusting. you can really tell they never had a women's movement/feminist movement. korea is the only country where a comedian can "joke" about beating up his partner, or trying to drug and rape his classmate, and it just be "comedy," where a female celebrity leaving her girlgroup gets more harassment and hate.

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  79. yup, it was brought up again which is how we got that netizenbuzz post. but there wasn't even more than 10k votes and nobody hated her so much that the broadcast stations had to make a statement saying they'll keep/drop her

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  80. A 19+ rated joke? You're joking right now right?
    The bless of having a penis... *shakeshead*
    Just get rid of the sixth man project, five is more than enough.

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  81. purrsandscratchesApril 14, 2015 at 3:00 AM

    ??? the comment meant that since people irl who know him treat him nice and with respect, he must be a good man? dk what's wrong with the comment.

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  82. waiting4indiansummerApril 14, 2015 at 3:01 AM

    the thing is...there isn't even proof that any of the six candidates did this, yet...n yet everyone jumping guns on whoever favourite candidates to be shot.....while things that were actually done n said...are all being brushed aside. major fked up.

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  83. "I bet this on my mother"

    Its literal translation is "If I'm lying, then my mother's a slut".
    It was inappropriate thing to say whether the person was male or female.

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  84. waiting4indiansummerApril 14, 2015 at 3:02 AM

    idk what's hilarious about this whole article n comments but i definitely can't stop laughing...for all the wrong/sick reasons i know not of myself...

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  85. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country
    that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over


    this fucker and the ones who liked this comment actually think "jokes" like the ones dongmin, hyungchul, and those other "comedians" made would be accepted in "less conservative" countries? those kind of jokes would not be accepted in canada, if a canadian comedian staring talking about how women have inferior brains, that beating women is ok, that he tried to drug and rape his highschool classmate, he's be exiled, end of story. those aren't "19+ jokes" they aren't funny at all and are disgusting. i feel sorry for korean women.

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  86. This is fantastic. For months, NB sheeple have been sucking K-netz dick and copying their opinions, hating on Yewon and shit, all while acting superior to them. And now, all this comes out, and everyone is knocked off their moral high horse and have to back track on all the shit they said.

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  87. I'm done with this issue...what he said isn't something to laugh about and I can't believe people are defending him. So he's out of the running and now people are hating on the entire cast? Or any future addition.

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  88. -> biased netizen <-April 14, 2015 at 3:04 AM

    more upvotes than down. i feel disgusted. ugh. never watching ic again. idc if kwanghee is 6th member, i can't watch such terrible "gagmen" on broadcast.

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  89. Not really? It's only inappropriate to people with a stick up their butt.

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  90. just curious but why did you preface with korea has to be the only country and then in parentheses write that isn't the only country why are you contradicting yourself what is the truth

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  91. Wow! Look at all these inetz so excited to bash Korea

    1. Nobody likes "killer Cho" in Korea. The only reason he still survives in the industry is because he has strong connection with producers.

    2. "Korea has to be the only country where sorry excuses for men are allowed"



    The only reason Korean male celebrities can return to TV easily is because Korean fangirls are so fucking loyal to their bias. Korean men just turn their back once they found out their bias is guilty of something. (ex. T-ara, Kara, Clara, Crayon Pop, Secret... etc)

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  92. If I was a idol I would be exiled, sometimes when I say I bet on my mom it means that I love my mum so much, so me betting her life is to show you how much I'm telling the truth. Its not a good thing to say but the way people get their panties in a bunch cause of this amazes me...would rather be a idol in the us since stuff like this would not even get the second of the day.

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  93. Just imagine if Hyuna or TaeYeon said they wanted to fuck and tried to roofie random dudes from school. Would we get so many people saying they suffered enough?



    As much as I've loved following kpop and learning more about Korean food, history and culture on the back of that, it's shit like this that reveals the place as an ass-backwards shithole. This is part of the reason Hallyu is dying - because once you scratch the shiny surface or Hallyu you find a Korea that is a misogynistic, bitter and shitty society that elevates a stranger's penis over it's own wife, sister or mother. And that is the "real" Korea.



    Who in their right mind would choose to live in a place like that? Good job basically setting fire to all the effort made to have Korea look appealing.

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  94. "When will Korea stand up for their women?"
    Really? So just because some stupid fans decide to shield the guy, now the whole nation is a country that never stood up for their women? Excuse me? Have you heard about Comfort Women?

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  95. lmao okay. he's getting "hate" as well. just by these being published and getting called out over and over.

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  96. I knw right!! whoever wrote those comments and agreed with it r simply shit heads!! i really hope karma comes and pits them in the ass!
    Godd this makes me soo iffing made to the point i wanna cry!! What kind of world r we living in!!
    But again rnt all of IC members have fuked up history! Except of course Yoo suk! Damn it to think i was going to start watching this show after sixth men special... nw all i see shitty excuse of men!! 😤😠

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  97. unbelievable

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  98. lmaooo same, like what was the point of the comment...

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  99. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sU4IgJONLZk/VKXJAK_P_XI/AAAAAAAABcU/GoUYw1ImZxs/s1600/k4.gif

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  100. Comfort women get called sluts by Ilbe bugs.
    Plus, the anger over that could just as easily be justified by the idea that it was Japanese men violating Korean women. It's a very different story when a Korean man is the rapist.

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  101. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 14, 2015 at 3:18 AM

    Man, the double standards. Assholes like JDM are laughing on TV, whereas people like Suzy are hated on just for dating. This makes me sick. What makes me the most sick is that people are trying to shield him.

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  102. waiting4indiansummerApril 14, 2015 at 3:19 AM

    no wonder bullying is an issue that can't be stopped there n raging wildly....it's even welcomed n supported....as can be seen.

    3. [+134, -42] There is not one show that is voluntarily talking about taking Jang Dong Min off their show. That means in real life, he's a real man's man ㅋㅋㅋㅋ



    disgusted as fk....
    aaahhh...my eyes need to be cleansed....

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  103. What the Holy fuck is wrong with these people? All these commentors are trash, I'm seriously so disgusted right now. I'm actually in shock right now, I can't even begin to understand what kind trash is in these people's brains. Please tell me Netizenbuzz only translated the negative comments because if this is what the majority of netizens in Korea believe then I'm out. Done. I can't support a culture that encourages trash like Jang Dong Min. I hope he him and his group of psycho comedian friends can do a US tour so someone can cut off his fucking balls and "send them to his father." But don't worry guys it's all good, it's just a joke...

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  104. You just said it. She's getting requests to get taken off Happy Together cause she's not funny anymore. I don't get how she still continues to get hate besides the single article NB translated ages ago which resulted in nothing, no witch hunt, no statements from broadcasters or even one by her rep saying she apologizes for what she said. So please provide the receipts if there actually are any, thanks!

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  105. Nah fuck this shit. If these people aren't educated enough to understand than they can fuck off. He's not only sexist, but he's an abuser. These are not jokes. Hitting people is not a joke. Rape is not a joke. Murder is not a joke. A joke is someone losing their entire career over dating or a slip-up from informal and formal speech...but rape, murder, and domestic abuse....sure, you're allowed in. Fuck them.

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  106. Honestly Yewon's scandal is nothing compared to this trash

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  107. ehh... sean penn, clint eastwood, mel gibson, chris brown, mark wahlberg, woody allen, etc, etc... hollywood is also pretty shit and american lets lots of trash on it's tvs

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  108. This guy beat the crap out of a random Vietnamese guy, and made him lose sight. But he's among top 10 highest paid actors in Hollywood last year, and when he was asked about the incident, he said he sleeps just fine. Every entertainment world has its douchebags and assholes. Don't say only Korea is fucked up.

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  109. ok so ur using ilbe users to be representative of Korean men? where is the logic
    and no... if u read other non entertainment articles on this site, netizens do get very angry and disgusted at rapists. people are just trying to excuse it on these articles bc infinite challenge fans are DIE HARD and they want "the best for the show" so they'll defend it to the grave.

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  110. http://www.trashcanswarehouse.com/assets/images/product-photos/iowa%20rotocast/trashbini-2.jpg

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  111. :s the article is about him talking about beating women and then the comment is saying he's a real mans man.. implying abusing women is good thing for men to do

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  112. Aaaaand the tumblr crowd on cue start posting gifs. Oh boy, you guys are sure changing society! lol

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  113. It's an inappropriate thing to say among Korean students. I know from my experience, because I lived there.

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  114. Male comedians seems to have a pass to make disgusting "jokes" and still be able to stay on TV without any problems.
    That's just so sad.

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  115. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 14, 2015 at 3:25 AM

    I find that a lot of Koreans are good people and the country is beautiful. But once you dig deeper into the Government and the society - you learn about all the dirt. I wanted to go to Korea and live there for years but I've decided to go to Japan. Many will probably say that Japan is not that great either. But it's a lot better than Korea. I'm sure it's great. But I'd never raise a kid there.


    I love Koreans and the country but the lack of support by the Government and general public for the LGBT, physically disabled, mentally disabled, and women is just appalling. Great for a trip and a few extended stays but I wouldn't raise a family there.


    Stuff like this just adds to the list. What does it say about a country when people like this are celebrities? Even in American media you only have trashy people. You don't have people who glorify raping women and grilling up intestines on your tv with a good career.

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  116. im not defending him like.. nah but if u read the comment... its definitely talking about how since no one is voluntarily taking him off shows, he must be a "real man" or great guy or somethin in real life

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  117. Cultural differences... I thought US particularly teaches about this subject. But in the end everyone is judgemental in their own way.

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  118. purrsandscratchesApril 14, 2015 at 3:26 AM

    but the comment was speaking with reference to the real life situation of him not getting kicked out of shows, not wrt his previous comments?

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  119. god i hate him x_x he's even trying to lose his status as a felon so he can sell liquor in his restaurant... =o=

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  120. comfort women is not really realted... it was sexual slavery forced on korean girls/women by imperial japan.. this sort of stuff the comedians are "joking" about is different, in many ways domestic violence and date rape are idk normalized? in those things lots of people will blame the women (comments like "she just made his angry." "why would she go on a date and drink if she didn't want to do him?")

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  121. how i know these fucking commenters are misogynist fucking pigs who are just his crazy fans: they want to eliminate the sixth man concept even tho all the other fucking candidate sans siwon are better, especially hong jin kyung- a woman who has had misogynistic comments flung at her this whole time especially by other candidates fans.

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  122. The logic is that the strong trend Ilbe's misogyny, which causes them to even attack comfort women, is a manifestation of misogyny in Korean society at large.

    Right, Korea hates rapists, which is why every one of the ones we've read about on NB were punished rightly for their crimes. Oh wait, almost all of them got a minimum sentence, or no jail time at all.

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  123. Does that mean 4 channers are the representatives of America? Hmmm... Also, an imaginary raping plan is not the same as an actual rape.
    And Korean men usually get mad whenever the media covers rape incidents like Cho Doo Soon, Korean church ministers raping orphans, etc (also the movie Do-Ga-Ni was a big hit)

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  124. somethingsomething1234April 14, 2015 at 3:32 AM

    Er you're stating REASONS why they happen but you're not rebutting her statements at all. At the end of the day, those incidents happen/ed.

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  125. This is fucking disgusting. I'll remember this next time you want to hate, ask for someone to leave the industry or "witch-hunt" over some pathetic rumour or something else.

    Fucking ridiculous.

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  126. the deal is he's smart, not really funny, but he's what i called real gag man, like haha, jaesuk only in RM, and jaesuk, haha, hongchul, lil bit hyungdon in IC.
    Offcourse the loyal viewers want IC to have a best gag man.
    so i see why they mad.. and i just found out he did volunteer job to correct his mistake. if there are too many men in knetz comments, there are too many women in here, both sides just seem too angry

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  127. him, sean penn, roman polanski and woody allen should have been exiled from the industry a long time ago

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  128. Then you should know the pathetic sentencing all those rapists got as punishment.

    Ilbe is equivalent to 4-chan in popularity, and its basically where netizens go to be however they want to be without any repercussions from anyone. And it's overwhelmingly and notoriously misogynistic. 4-chan may be pretty bad, but it's never been so bad that any commentator who is outed as a girl gets immediately harassed and attacked.

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  129. Seriously I'm so disgusted by ppls who is shielding him. Wtf. He is wrong indeed and eventho it happens “a long time ago” and he is already “apologized” doesn't mean he is changed . sh***.

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  130. That's how I interpreted the comment too, unless the translation is off...

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  131. Yeah well the person is saying these things happen because they are men. Trust me. It has nothing to do with them being men. For example, this actress did DUI twice and returned to a drama without any reflecting period.

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  132. "it's never been so bad that any commentator who is outed as a girl gets immediately harassed and attacked."


    Lmao, are you serious? You must have missed the comments asking for tits and ass that get posted every minute or the hundreds of times that girls get doxxed or raided.

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  133. Just want to remember y'all that this is a world problem, society human race problem. Not a South Korea problem.

    Keep on hating these dumbasses, their ridiculous comments and the disgusting comedians but let's not make it about the nationality because it isn't.

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  134. 4. [+8,722, -4,933] Conservative Korea has to be the only country that a gagman making a 19+ rated joke is something to be exiled over



    why are you shielding him, it wasn`t a fucking joke
    (his face makes me sick)

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  135. Oh wow he volunteered, that's so amazinggg, I guess it's all good then! I mean who cares if he's a murderer in the making who wants to grill a girl's intestines and send them to her mother. Also, he believes that women are stupider than men and should be locked away in a cage and kept a virgin cause what else are they good for amiright? He's a real man and he volunteered so he must be a good guy!

    For fucks sake look at what you're saying.

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  136. Knetz don't normally shield any DV or rape. Remember how KHJ is still being mocked?

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  137. Never forget the face he made at Hara after she mentioned it a little

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  138. Didn't single out Korea. Just JDM. But yeah, I hate Mark Wahlberg too. Douchebags are everywhere. They deserve to be called out every time, not turn a blind eye just because somewhere there's someone worse.

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  139. Yeah, no, still nothing compared to the shit going down on Ilbe.

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  140. Wow, this is too much, really unfair. Just because Dong Min deserves to be the 6th man, they'll do dirty play. Now, the 6th man won't matter anymore whoever it is because they've used dirty tricks to make one of the strong contender to step down.

    Really don't get it... it happened so long and he already apologized for it, I guess almost all the comedians and celebrities have some dark past too but I know they managed to learn from it and become mature.

    Hope they won't get 6th man anymore if Dong Min really quits, stop this project IC and move on to thenext one, just do what Defconn suggested, just hire some guest to help for the long term project like what you did during the Rowing Special, 6th man won't matter anymore.

    I believe in your judgment Teo PD and IC casts, jaesuk. IC fighting, Dong Min stay strong :D Please don't let this happen to Dong Min, he deserves the spot more than anyone else

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  141. Instead of just dismissing the concerns at the very least they could say something like "We understand the concerns, we do not take these comments lightly and after Jang Dong Min's reflection we have decided to proceed cautiously." OR SOMETHING THAT INDICATES THIS ISN'T A JOKE TO THEM??????

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  142. "4-chan may be pretty bad, but it's never been so bad"
    Last time I checked some 4 channer tricked users to make toxic chemicals which eventually lead to the death of dozens of people. Ilbe is nothing but a bunch of cowards with big mouths.


    " the pathetic sentencing most rapists get as punishment"


    Let's face it. The whole Jurisdiction system in Korea is fucked up big time. It's not only women-related crimes where the victims don't get justice.

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  143. " a manifestation of misogyny in Korean society at large."


    Every country has their own "Ilbe" bugs.


    Japan has Netyuyo's


    America has 4 channers, KKK's


    Even Gernany has Neo-Nazi's

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  144. Oh sure. So lucky that we have to buy a house to get married.


    We has the second highest suicide rates with the most working time


    You really think Korean men are happy?

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  145. i think they mean he's not that bad man you're all think he is.
    ppl said he treats women badly in genius 3, but at the end of the show, most ppl, women too support him than the other survivor.

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  146. Idk why you're trying to educate me on Ilbe when I've gone to the site before. I know what they say on that board and its the same shit you see on 4chan. Have you ever actually gone on 4chan before? There's no way you could defend the place and try to claim that girls don't get immediately attacked and harassed.

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  147. The real 'ilbe bugs' in America are people on Stormfront. A more accurate way to describe ilbe would be Stormfront with 4chan popularity. That is what's worrying.

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  148. if he's a murderer in the making who wants to grill a girl's intestines and send them to her mother = stop overreacting, he probably watch too many movies, or scrolling too many comments on 9gag



    i got tired of explaining. i see this guy as a smart one but fucked up a big time with his choices of words. i won't hate or want him dead just because he has a loose mouth, if i know him, and he really did treat all women disgustingly, then i will,you know, act like you did.
    for all we know, he could be hurt by women badly before in his past life, and we know nothing about it, /shrug

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  149. joyislovejoyislifeApril 14, 2015 at 4:12 AM

    MBC is basically saying "Kwanhee still ain't gonna be the 6th man star empire"

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  150. I've never done much considerable research on 4chan, but I also haven't done that much considerable research on Ilbe either and yet from the little of what I have, the overwhelming and blatant misogyny was made clear to me almost immediately.

    Both are full of pathetic losers who hate on women because nobody will sleep with them. But to my knowledge, 4chan users as a whole have never made it a source of pride to show off how much they hate women.

    I mean....
    http://siesdestino.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/suzy.jpg

    yeah.

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  151. This is why I could never join in on the attacks against Yewon. The Yewon-Lee Tae Im fight is nothing compared to some of the stuff male comedians get away with. Such an overreaction towards both Lee Tae Im and Yewon and now such an underreaction towards all the men involved in this, although cleary there is at least a lot of disagreement as you can see by the downvotes. Strength to the downvoters and those who disagree at least, hope they can be heard.

    Hong Jin Kyung should just get her own show, don't even want her on Infinity Challenge given the shit revealed about the other members.

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  152. I think it's only Jae Suk hyung who can change Dong Min's decision. Jae Suk hyung please talk some sense into Dong Min to fight and never give up like what you've done with Jun Ha when he wants to quit IC because of PMS and the same as Hyung Don when he's feeling he's just a burden. Please help him. IC Don't let him go, you've already gone through all the problems before, you can manage this.

    If ever there's really no way and you let him drop out, then just cancel this project since it's not a fair fight anymore.

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  153. I barely watch tv but I still see her on multiple shows

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  154. She didn't say happy, she said lucky.

    If you guys are working so hard, why do you have the lowest productivity?

    http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/3698/insider-perspective-seven-reasons-why-korea-has-worst-productivity-oecd

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  155. honestly i wonder how different my life would be if i were a guy lol well maybe guys think the same too

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  156. Omg. I am super upset that Yewon had to deal such hate and now people are willing to look this over like its no biggie. Its getting me so mad as her fan. Fuck sake.

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  157. coz t ara has not d to be shared

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  158. What do you think about dog-eating in Korea?

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  159. I honestly don't give a shit about whether or not he got hurt by a woman in the past but I get what you're saying, innocent until proven guilty. And for the most part I agree, but I'm just fucking pissed at how female idols/celebrities get destroyed over things that don't even come close to the stuff he's said.

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  160. These people are fucking insane? They defend him and are giving him a break but girls like T-ara are still viewed as trash to this day. I'd HATE to be a woman in Korea

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  161. This is about Yoo Sang Moo, the third guy in their trio, but I wanted to repost it (I posted it on an earlier article too) just so people know how bad he truly is. Luckily, he's the least popular (I doubt anyone would bother to defend him though), but if you ever see him on a show - just know. Here it goes -

    On Happy Together once, Kyung Hwan (gag concert comedian) once told a really telling story. Kim Ji Min (female comedian) was guesting on the show, and she used to be in a public relationship with Yoo Sang Moo when they were both on gag concert. Kyung Hwan told a brief story about seeing them together in the parking lot and Kim Ji Min was following behind Yoo Sang Moo and they were clearly in a fight. Then Yoo Sang Moo turns around abruptly, and Kim Ji Min flinches like she's going to get hit. Everyone else on the show kind of recoils at this story, Park Mi Sun (female host) looks concerned and Yoo Jae Suk looks a little on edge, and they change the conversation pretty quickly.

    Next, I saw him on a subbed cable panel show discussing issues in society (it was subbed by bumdi if anyone is curious). He was there with Jang Dong Min I think. One of the scenarios sent in concerned whether someone should stop their friend from getting married, because the guy she planned on marrying had a past incident of domestic abuse in his previous marriage (that he was upfront about). They debated whether it would just make the friend mad and ruin their friendship, etc, etc. There was also a male professor on the show who was very adamant about stopping the wedding. He was very knowledgeable about domestic abuse. This was when I realized who Yoo Sang Moo was, and then it got worse. At one point, the professor says something to the effect that men who commit domestic abuse should be removed from society and that they would almost always do it again. Yoo Sang Moo reacts to this and basically says "but what if the woman did something to provoke him." It was absolutely sickening, especially considering his past.

    Anyways, I hope Kim Ji Min is more fortunate with her future partners. I hope
    Kyung Hwan realizes why that is not a ~funny~ anecdote to tell on variety, although maybe he did not realize the implications of her flinching - that perhaps she was in real danger of being hit.

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  162. NB people are butt hurt with this kind of news since most reader here are female.
    from what i observe, why the korean netizens do not pursue this witch hunt (and rather accepting JDM) is not because koreans are conservatives or misogynist nation or whatever, but because although JDM has made an awful mistake, he had apologized, received his punishment and serve in community service for it.


    and just like yewon case, more than the mistake done, koreans and knetizens hate it when some agency or celebrity try to step on someone's head to get to the surface by doing media play and eradicate his/her career. that is why they sided with JDM this time.


    and by seeing how knetizens react, entertainment world decides they will keep JDM on their show.

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  163. It's people like you that make me lose faith in humanity

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  164. Sean Penn, Roman Polanski, and Woody Allen got away with their shit because it happened 30~40 years ago when the media and justice system was much shittier about cases of domestic violence and rape than they are now.
    I mean, most Americans were not even aware of the issue of sexual harassment in the workplace until 1991 when Anita Hill came out with her case.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Hill#Effects

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  165. well this was Yoo Sang Moo you say, i don't even know him no offense. But Dong Min has got nothing to do with this...

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  166. People change, accept it, it happens. Dong Min learned from his past mistake. IC you have the power, don't let Dong Min step down just like that.

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  167. Yes I know, I noted that. But he was involved in the radio conversation.

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  168. what's wrong with eating dog? other countries eat various meat other than beef (cat, bat, lizard, etc). just because we are not used to eat it, does not mean it is wrong. accept world's cultural differences. you'll live here forever anyway.


    ps. i'm a muslim. and i dont eat dogs or cats or any of the above.

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  169. hmm... i see.

    well i did not say i share the same view or agree with JDM or with korean/knetizens. i just wrote my observation, that's all.
    but thanks anyway :D

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  170. I kinda agree with knetz. He did say a joke out of line but he also apologized for it twice. If I recall, It seemed like he was trying to comically let off steam and it failed horribly.
    The other three though, definitely needs to be investigated because they actually implied they did something incriminating and not in a joke form either which is a little scary.

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  171. Equal opportunity trash though. Both men and women can be trash as long as they entertain us.

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  172. Okay, as a dude to a dude...

    Shut up, man.

    Stop whining about women pointing out systemic oppression. If you aren't contributing to oppression, their comment isn't about you. Generalizations are not specifically attacking you, and getting worked up about them is basically screaming your guilty conscience to the world.

    Yes, every person on the planet does have it rough and there are advantages and disadvantages to almost every side. But there's only one side being oppressed by the system, and if they want to generalize (because a majority of men either contribute, endorse or simply don't care about the fact that women are marginalized in society) by golly, let them. Accept your privilege and move on.

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  173. The reason K-netz aren't pursuing it is because they like him.

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  174. who are you even talking to

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  175. Do you know what episode is that?

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  176. It just proves how insignificant koreans believe this matter is.. Sadly a man treating a woman like shit is just not a big deal for them

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  177. Shit, sorry i read your comment wrong. I thought u were expressing your opinion that he already received his punishment for it, not that your were expressing what you think are the knetizen's reasoning for supporting jdm. So so sorry for that! And yes I agree with your opinion on why knetizen's are siding with him this time, although I do believe that his status as a popular male comedian has something to do with it as well.

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  178. Ugh those comments on nate make me sick. How could you even root for him? I'm amazed they didn't kick him off the first time.

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  179. thank you for this. i like you :D

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  180. Fucking thank you. I'm a man too and it embarasses how there's always a dude to come in with #NotAllMen, preaching like some Men's Rights Activist... like... this isn't about you, stfu.

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  181. :D *embarrassed wave*

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  182. I'll look for it. She's been on so many episodes it's hard to remember which one. There is this though, which describes him having an outburst although he doesn't hit her, just a car air bag: http://gagconcertfan.blogspot.com/2013/11/what-was-kim-jimin-talking-about-in.html

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  183. I never seen Dong Min suited as a Sixth Man. His character overlaps Myung-Soo's too much. I would prefer Siwon actually but it seem impossible. I wonder if Kwang Hee's company did that. In any case their 'jokes' sounds so wrong. I can't believe males go around and says what about there are 19+ rated jokes. Just get a hold yourself dude.

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  184. wow the hypocrisy is still going on !
    then let T-ara, Park Bom and others alone !
    ah yeah, they are women living in a mysoginist country...

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  185. lol then let SJ members alone too. hypocrisy at its best.

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  186. I read in DDD forum before, someone stated and i quote:
    "I think many people expect that JDM and PMS' characters will clash because they are so alike with the curses and being angry , but I think otherwise, they could be a great combo honestly, like
    father and son, PMS can take JDM under his wing since JDM is like his
    younger self"

    PMS said it himself that JDM is like his
    younger self. I completely agree with this as I have seen last week's episode wherein PMS and JDM team up. PMS is so comfortable, you could see their rapport. The next part will be shown on this week's episode. Better watch it and judge it yourself. They're actually a combo

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  187. Urgh woody allen that bastard who cheats on his wife with their adopted daughter. Disgusting.

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  188. I'm never one to criticise another's country culture no matter how weird it might be but excusing his bad behaviour just because he's a gagman is bloody ridiculous. Esp when they refuse to do the same for idols and actors even though they are less offensive than him

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  189. I will never understand korean standards. Lee tae im scolded yewon and got outcasted. This idiot made a 'joke' that is misogynistic and they want to keep him on air cause its an old story and he is funny.

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  190. One said something dumb versus a group who bullied someone. Big difference.

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  191. For goodness sake Korea, the double standard is so high. Just because he is a comedian he can get away with it? No! There are a lot of idols who suffered the same, their past being brought up but hey since they are idols they need to get hate and since Jang dongmin is a comedian he can get away with his "simple joke"


    Yeah right

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  192. your not very bright, this person is saying he must get a long with men and have good relationships with them. why are you throwing up? what is with you ifans never being able to forgive?

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  193. He already apologized for it before and even took negative criticism, he already learned his lesson from it. People change, believe it or not, what is done is done and he can't do anything to change it. What's important is the present and the future, and as I see it, Dong Min's paid it off and is doing well. So why bother brought this news out now when it all happens in the past and he already reflects about it. The issue with this is the DIRTY PLAY used to him, just too much, too unfair. The point is with all the idols scandals it all happened in the present time however for Dong Min, it all happened in the past, the past people.

    He's the only perfect candidate for the 6th man position, since he's too strong, people try to bring him down with such dirty tricks.

    Who you'd want to be the 6th man?
    Kang Kyun Sung? - reek of acting, his crazy laugh is tiring
    Siwon? - too much american reaction, no content
    Hong Jin Kyung? even though I'm not against for IC to have a female member, she still lacks stamina, Myung Soo already lacks stamina so it will not be good for the team.
    Kwanghee? - There's noting wrong with him but sometimes he gets over the top. He's actually my second choice if not with this whole messy things.

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  194. Because he is a comedian and he is male. ifstg I want to open their eyes

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  195. Change my ass. 5 days ago Lady Jane talked about how he will tell female staffs to shut up.

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