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Tuesday, February 10, 2015

Woollim denies Seo Jisoo leaving Lovelyz, will be back for next comeback


Article: Lovelyz reps, "Seo Jisoo's leave is an unfounded rumor... she will be coming back with the next album"

Source:
TV Report via Naver

1. [+1,417, -32] Woollim's not the type of company that would stay quiet if investigation results proved in favor of them ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

3. [+968, -26] Yeah well let's see if she really does comeback with them

4. [+950, -16] Don't care about the comeback, we care about the investigation results

5. [+913, -19] Woollim used to respond so fast to this scandal but now they're so slow

6. [+185, -12] Five years later: Seo Jisoo did not leave the group. She will just not be participating in this album.

7. [+159, -7] The company's going about this the wrong way. Should've either cut her from the group from the start or had her promote with them from the start. It's weird for her to come in in the middle and makes it uncomfortable for everyone.

8. [+167, -15] Should just kick her out...

9. [+167, -17] If they let her comeback, they're just going to drop Lovelyz's image to rock bottom

10. [+136, -19] Forget it, the seven are just fine as they are

11. [+123, -15] I was starting to like the group because I heard they took Seo Jisoo out but now I don't like them because she's still with them =_= Sigh, even I could make a better girl group, what's up with the groups nowadays... always picking the worst members

12. [+102, -16] Well they certainly benefitted off of her promotion wise.

13. [+86, -3] Forget the comeback, what about the investigation results? They used to media play so much about taking legal action and now they're not saying a word.

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Source: Nate

1. [+84, -10] Woollim-ah, are you crazy

2. [+59, -2] They should get the scandal sorted out first. Give us updates on what the police are saying with the investigations...

3. [+45, -2] I like how their debut album didn't get any attention so they focus their comeback on this 'shocking' scandal

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201 comments:

  1. Wollim be like... Try again netizens.

    http://i.giphy.com/fDlgsZMYZVYgE.gif

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  2. I see that they's succeeded in sweeping this under the rug.

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  3. " [+968, -26] Yeah well let's see if she really does comeback with them"

    ^^ mte

    http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Yes+after+reading+more+in+to+it+i+have+to+_5708387ed0619c6c1a33aa4b8a60000d.gif

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  4. Did she promote at all in their last promotions?

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  5. [+86, -3] Forget the comeback, what about the investigation results? They used to media play so much about taking legal action and now they're not saying a word.

    Yeahh.. im curious about the result too.. btw, just yesterday im wondering about this & today theres an article about it.. haha

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  6. woollim be like: we're not gunna talk about this and hope it just goes away because $$$

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  7. Then why is there 7 girls in the teaser?

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  8. Wollim should've cut her out from the group. It's hard for the group to advance if people keeps asking where's Jisoo and how's Jisoo? Their comeback should be all about their song and themselves. Not about a particular member.

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  9. so what happened to the investigation? did they release the results yet?

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  10. I already knew it was false rumor anyway. Well hopefully the things said about her aren't true, otherwise there's no way she will be coming back to the group.

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  11. Jisoo wont be joining for this comeback. But for the next comeback

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  12. someone was arrested today

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  13. 2. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

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  14. Hey guys, guess what...

    Jisoo is innocent and the person who made up the rumours (a man) has been ARRESTED. SUCK IT.

    http://www.asianjunkie.com/2015/02/lovelyzs-seo-ji-soos-accusermalicious-rumor-spreader-was-a-man-arrested-by-police/

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  15. No, they have not released anything yet, but the case is still being investigated.

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  16. http://media.daum.net/entertain/culture/newsview?newsid=20150211115109235



    A man was arrested, aarently it was just a rumor.

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  17. how do you know besided tumblr detectives?

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  18. she did not, the rumors came out when their predebut mv was released so she never saw the light of day

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  19. LOL. I wonder how they'll respond when they read the news about the arrest of the Mr.A who spread the rumors, and how the case is being handed over the prosecution now. The case is pretty much sealed.

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  20. A dude was arrested for the rumors

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  21. Well they caught the person so....stop the hate with baseless rumors

    Seoul Mapo Police Station has arrested 'Mr A' for disseminating malicious rumors about Lovelyz Jisoo. Investigations ongoing.

    cr; the seoul story

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  22. Because someone was arrested today for it.

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  23. They mentioned that a birthday post of her was posted on this cafe site thing.

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  24. False. A man has been arrested.

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  25. They're just getting started. Anticipate their future slayage.

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  26. 2. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

    I mean they just debuted so lets wait a while before deciding they are failures

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  27. Read this before you make judgments: http://www.asianjunkie.com/2015/02/lovelyzs-seo-ji-soos-accusermalicious-rumor-spreader-was-a-man-arrested-by-police/
    "The Mapo police arrested a man and booked him on charges of maliciously spreading rumors about Seo Ji Soo. The police commented that the case has been passed along to the prosecutors, and until a decision is made by that branch, the suspect will remain anonymous. The police also said that they found the suspect by tracing the IP address."



    An example where the Korean Police actually did right. I just feel bad for Jisoo. The mental trauma she had to go through. And no one will probably ever forget this scandal..smh

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  28. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1ShBhH03TzA/VAddCKVrpXI/AAAAAAAAY0Q/QYdo1s1maY4/s1600/Bruh.jpg

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  29. Well the person who made up the rumors has been arrested and turn out to be a man.

    Wow his imagination about the lesbian and sexual harassement. Wow just wow

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  30. I mean, there's gotta be a reason why she wasn't in the video in the first place. On a side note, netizens are such nasties when it comes to Lovelyz.

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  31. 2. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

    What Bitter fangirl wrote this? They better get on board & learn to stan such perfection

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  32. Jisoo is innocent and the person who started the rumors is AN ADULT MAN. He's been arrested and is now being formerly prosecuted since earlier today.


    THAT'S why Jisoo is promoting now. People who hated on Jisoo better be sorry now because they ruined her reputation and almost ruined her life.


    Are you happy with yourselves? So shameless.

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  33. Here's some developments for y'alls, damn netizens...

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  34. idk what this means... ?

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  35. Did you not read the article title?...... It says that she'll be back for the next comeback.

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  36. Man he really ruined innocent girl debut experience and give her enough scar to last her for a life time. Some people are just too cruel with their hate. Did it mention at why he did it?

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  37. netizen being un-lovely to lovelyz :(

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  38. Whether there's a person arrested or not I don't think jisoo should back to lovelyz for the sake of her and the group

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  39. Did Knetz even read the news?

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  40. Lmao you're late on telling me that. If you haven't noticed, I updated my comment a minute ago.

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  41. Knets aren't even updated, a man has been arrested lmao

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  42. they dont want to believe it more like

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  43. is it too early for her to go on healing camp :P

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  44. i bet they'll stimm hate on her...

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  45. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway

    [+30, -7] Lovelyz... failed though..

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  46. "THAT'S why Jisoo is promoting now. People who hated on Jisoo better be sorry now" Not sorry at all because stuff like this turns out to be true all the time. It's not rare to be a sexual abuser nor should these things not be taken seriously. Many internet detectives who evidently had "proofs" that it wasn't true were also very off in their reporting, as well.

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  47. i think its sort of sick that some netizens think the news is being manipulated by woollim... they turned it into a witch hunt tbh

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  48. They literally only promoted one song. It took Apink (for example) like three comebacks to make it big.

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  49. Nah . They just get started. They will slay

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  50. They shouldn't kick her just because people are asking about her whereabouts. In the near future, people would be like


    "Look at the devil Woollim, kicked out Jisoo when she's not even guilty." "They abandoned her"
    "Woollim is the cruelest company of all time etc etc.."
    (if the investigation ended up to be on her favor ofc).


    Does this sounded familiar?

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  51. i forget to reply you on kpkf, a man has been arrested today and they already sent forward to prosecutor

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  52. you don't fail after one song.. because 99% of the debuts are failures anyways

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  53. So 99% of groups are failures because they didn't hit it big with their debut song? Right.

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  54. it really wouldn't be surprising at all if they were though. let's stop acting like woollim being under sm to a degree doesn't give them that kind of power. even lesser companies have that power.

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  55. Im glad they caught him,that was a vicious rumors with real looking evidence,this fool created reasonable doubt and she was innocent. Everyone owes her an apology.

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  56. It's way too early into their debut to be predicting their outcome.

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  57. [NEWS] Lovelyz Seo Jisoo, "It was hard for her to keep her body steady..."
    [NEWS] Lovelyz Seo Jisoo, "It was hard for her to keep her body steady due to the huge psychological trauma"... 'What about now?'

    Lovelyz Seo Jisoo is a topic among netizens.

    Previously, various online sites posted malicious rumours regarding Seo Jisoo.

    Because of this growing controversy, last year, Woollim Entertainment requested the rumours regarding Seo Jisoo to be investigated at Seoul Mapo District Police Station and stated that they will take firm action.

    According to the last media report, the party concerned said, "Seo Jisoo received such a huge psychological trauma that she couldn't even touch her food. On the 11th, it was hard to keep her body steady when she was practicing. Eventually she decided to take a break."

    Subsequently, they said, "She is suffering a lot under the public's eyes. On the morning of the 12th, her face was white and pale when she woke up."

    Also, they said,"While she was consulting with the concerned party, she burst out in tears. It was a pitiful situation even just watching it."

    Meanwhile, at the moment, all of Seo Jisoo's activities are tentatively on hold and henceforth, the the situation is being watched with keen interest.

    Source: http://article.topstarnews.net/detail.php?number=105820
    Translated by: @keiyeons

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  58. This one needs to be spread everywhere. I can't imagine how much pain Jisoo has because of this.

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  59. I want see all the "HOW COULD YOU BE NEUTRAL IN THIS??11??" commenters here

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  60. lmao im saying that the commenter is bitter

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  61. But when there is no concrete evidence, then she was innocent and never actually proven guilty of anything. There are also just as many cases of people going to jail for years because of vindictive psycopaths and false sexual allegations.


    It's a complicated situation and unwise to automatically shame or believe someone in situations like that. Because in the case of situations like Jisoo, it does more harm than good. Jisoo is still psychologically traumatized right now due to a whole nation of netizens believing lies about her.

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  62. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway



    i mean a girl group who hasn't been around for 6 months and they've "failed" lol that logic

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  63. definitely not, they only read rumor lol

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  64. Did they even read the news? Pftt

    From the start, this rumor doesn't even make sense. I mean too much things being speculated. From a lesbian to a rapist and then animal abuser. all the 'evidence' that been given by so called victim is proven to be fake. But still knetizen dont even want to admit it. And the this news out, i wonder how they react?


    All this things is sick.Ruin a girl life who trained for a long time to achieve her dream.poor jisoo

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  65. I love how you're saying I'm late when you're the one that didn't get the memo before commenting.

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  66. Rumor is the only news for them lol

    Knetizen logic

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  67. They literally just arrested the guy who made up the rumors by tracking him via IP.

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  68. waiting to see interesting comments on this news

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  69. and people are saying "why doesn't she promote if she's innocent".. i mean people like you are the reason that even if the girl turns out to be innocent her life would still be hell..

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  70. These netizens aren't even educating themselves about the investigation results before commenting.

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  71. Hmmmm let me see.... where is commenters who acting like they know everything and jumo into conclusions. Where where where

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  72. Lovelyz saved my soul from damnation & Jisoo died for my sins, they are my saviors.

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  73. His identity is being kept secret until the prosecution rules out a verdict. I assume they'll spill the details then.

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  74. Mrs._KimMyungsoo (L)February 10, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Yet the person was not a sexual abuser and was condemned wrongly. More than likely thanks to people like you with a one track mindset of social justice. The victim here is Jisoo. A young girl whose life and career were and could have been ruined.

    So yeah, a damn apology is in order.

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  75. Yeah.. I read every single article of Lovelyz and i see a lot of comment from people who acting like they know the truth. "How can you be so neutral?" "Wow this jisoo girl is bitch" " I hate this girl"..

    Interesting..... Now i can know how they respond to this news?

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  76. Is it the same guy who made that post abt the eating his fish cake friend? Grown ass men need to chill out and get a life and stop dragging young kids down just because they're failures.

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  77. Mrs._KimMyungsoo (L)February 10, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    That's if NB translate it. You know it works.

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  78. Woollim should truly drop her out of the group she well just damage the group image k-netz did start to like lovelyz!
    And even if its not true they already found something to remind themself and her
    With if they success,it well affect jisoo!! imagin lovelyz as a whole in a concert and people calling them names??
    The damge already been done....

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  79. "it's true because stuff like this turns out to be true all the times" hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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  80. They will always translate article that 'interesting' to them. The news article? I doubt they will translate it.but let just wait and see

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  81. I'm sure there is more than one asshole in all of Korea...

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  82. Nah, people should be sorry. You know she's been in the hospital for mental trauma, right?
    I personally think whenever there are these kind of serious accusations, people should be more inclined to believe the victim, but also refrain from starting a witch hunt against the accused and remain open to the possibility that the accused might be the victim. None of the social justice crap, justice should be served by the law.

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  83. I agree that I think many people took the right path in taking the allegations seriously, as long as they did so without immediately ascribing blame to Jisoo. Too many people in this world have their voices silence because people don't want to believe that something like that could happen. I'm glad it didn't turn out to be true because the world doesn't need another sexual abuse victim-- and am hoping that Mr. "A" pays for what happened here, and that Jisoo recovers well.

    But I don't take back my decision to take the rumors seriously. I'm much happier to have been wrong to do so than to have possibly silenced possible rape victim with disbelief.

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  84. Mrs._KimMyungsoo (L)February 10, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    Lol. Hardly.

    Seriously, since when were NB commenters seers?

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  85. Well, when you use debuts like AkMu, Winner, miss A, 2NE1 as your standards, they're definitely going to think every other idol group's debut is a failure

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  86. no offense but they couldnt save their other artists from malicious rumors such as the tablo incident and myungsoo's dating scandal. even if woollim had the power to manipulate the news they sure as hell arent exercising it

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  87. im waiting for comments and knetz new theory of another makjang haha

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  88. "Not sorry at all"

    Where is humanity??? Wow.

    A girl's life just ruined because of a false rumors and a people who have a mentality like you.

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  89. I thought a girl actually went to the police though?

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  90. It's funny how people were attacking users who were defending Jisoo as delusional fans. What do you have to say for yourselves now that the truth came out? Fans or not, their opinion is just as valid as yours. This should exemplify that.

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  91. Of course. These 30+ year old guys are so fucking sick in the head. And you know theres teens being tortured by guys this old all over the world its disgusting i'm going to vomit.

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  92. She was summoned after Woollim launched the investigation. A lot of people fell for Jisooluv's pretty words, but she was just putting on a front.

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  93. 2. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway


    Once again. Please tell me how Lovelyz failed.
    - more than 5k albums sold.
    - 20k recorded fans
    - Decent chart performance for both songs.


    NB giving Lovelyz the T-ara treatment lol.

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  94. 3 of those being YG artists, and one being a JYP artist. Did they seriously think it'd be fair to hold Woollim's artists to that standard?

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  95. Mrs._KimMyungsoo (L)February 10, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    Jisooluv? She was proven as fake. The police already got through her and it turned out that she wasn't the originator and just wanted to raise awareness. Despite all her lies claiming she was also a victim.

    I hope Woollim send all their asses to court.

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  96. people complain about the big 3 dominance and then they rarely give a chance to these groups from smaller companies (ik woollim is owned by sm, but the promotion etc is separate)

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  97. I really hope they reveal his name.

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  98. I hope all the cyber bullies who went all T-ara/Hyosung/Etc on Lovelyz and Seo Jisoo feel shit now for spreading and believing nasty rumours without proof. I don't know how many times this will need to happen for people to learn their lesson and change their ways when it comes to believing this kind of gossip.

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  99. Ohhh i see... but in the new article NB posted, theres a comment said that the one who got caught is not the victim, just some attention seeker.. hmmmm, this case ia weird...

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  100. It is legal thing to keep his identity until this prosecution's final sentence come out.

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  101. 9. [+167, -17] If they let her comeback, they're just going to drop Lovelyz's image to rock bottom

    Sad. But it's true. Even if she is proven innocent. She will be remember as this.

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  102. All these people claiming that Woolim should kick her out the group, for what exactly? She did nothing wrong, there were malicious rumors toward her that she had absolutely no control over. So you want here to be in shock, ridiculed, and then not debut (aka fired) from a career choice that shes has trained for years to finally attain. That's too damn much.

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  103. http://www.asianjunkie.com/2015/02/lovelyzs-seo-ji-soos-accusermalicious-rumor-spreader-was-a-man-arrested-by-police/

    I know being neutral in such a case is a hard thing to do, so a big applause to you all who have been neutral. But to ppl who have been siding the victim, trashing her, suspecting her, building your own conclusion as if your words will blow the universe and shits;

    May God bless your life.

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  104. Technically it's not a clean slate quite yet, but it is certainly looking good for her. Do we know if the person the police arrested was the original source for the rumors? Hopefully he is, since that would mean Jisoo is 100% innocent if he can not substantiate his claims. If he just passed the rumors along from another source, K-netizens won't let up since there really is no proof. In fact, I could totally see K-netz saying she looks even more suspicious if the only guy arrested is not the original source. Yikes.

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  105. They love to deem every new idol group as failures so it's nothing new.

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  106. Yeah cause as long as it's not rape it's ok to fuck up someones life hm?



    You are all about the "victim". but somehow you don't for a second think about the fact that if this isn't true that this Jisoo girl goes trough all this shit for nothing?



    Somehow thats ok for you? fuck is wrong with you.

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  107. the comments disappoint me lol

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  108. I love how everyone here is acting like they believed in her the whole time (not you specifically).

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  109. I may get shits by saying this but woollim is shady af tbh.
    When the girls were about to debut the rumors about Jisoo came out of no where and now that right after Lovelyz announce their comeback the police suddenly found the culprit.
    On the other side, im glad that Jisoo was proven innocent

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  110. the tin foil hat doesn't look good on you sis.

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  111. Cant she just freaking perform. If its true that its a rumour WHY NOT JUST PERFORM?!?!?! Why keep her like a bird in a cage when EVERYONE KNOWS SHES NOT IN THE WRONG?

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  112. People always seem to confuse supporting the alleged victim for unconditionally believing their claims. Blind belief does nothing to truly help the victim or situation. Instead, support needs to be offered through not dismissing their claims, offering emotional support, and gathering evidence to substantiate the claim. You can support the victim without pointing fingers at the alleged perpetrator until the situation is more clear. In public cases like this, people need to remember that we are too far removed from the situation to cast blame when it is only based on hearsay.

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  113. She doesn't even have a big role in the group. And I still want to know why Baby Soul doesn't sing during live stages.

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  114. And why woollim should kick Jisoo out? She is prove to be innocent, thus SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. Why so bitter abt keeping Jisoo in the group btw? move on

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  115. It's not that I want her out, just want to say that with or without her, the group would do just fine.

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  116. Guilty until proven innocent. That's what netz seem to live by.

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  117. Seriously.... there's a reason why rumors can make some ppl attempt suicide, be careful when hearing a rumor guys. I know gossiping is fun but really, wait till u become the victim, it's not fun anymore, u'll find out how destructive it is (experience yo~)

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  118. Actually the rumors about Jisoo were spreading about a week before their debut, they started off small in Korean communities. At first they were only about her being gay, but then all this other stuff, most of it false, came out and made it all so much bigger than what it really was.

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  119. Well, it's not really the public's right to know unless he's been convicted, is it? I'm not sure how these things work, but say he got a lawyer and was able to somehow prove he didn't do anything wrong, I assume it's his right to remain anonymous just in case.

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  120. They are perfectly fine as seven

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  121. 7. [+159, -7] The company's going about this the wrong way. Should've either cut her from the group from the start or had her promote with them from the start. It's weird for her to come in in the middle and makes it uncomfortable for everyone.

    This comment has a point..

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  122. Yup. I also not sure about how these things work but i have the same opinion like you

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  123. Failed? 20.000 members in their fancafe lol sure

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  124. Wow. =_=
    For some of these netizens, ignorance has truely become their best friend, huh?

    *Sighs deeply...

    Before typing your (judgemental) comments on how you don't like her, blah,blah,blah, etc,etc ; why not actually type and update yourself on the current status of the case.
    *Shortcut. Turn right>>> http://www.asianjunkie.com/2015/02/lovelyzs-seo-ji-soos-accusermalicious-rumor-spreader-was-a-man-arrested-by-police/ *

    Is that hard?

    Now, in regards to the comments talking on whether Jisoo should stay or leave the group is totally valid for discussion...

    Rumors typically leave a bad residue to the vunerable/easily manipulated mind: those who prefer to believe in possibilities rather than validity. Having said that, it may be beneficial for the image and reputation of the group to just remove Jisoo, for the residue these rumors have left behind. On the other hand, it may be of the publics best interest to wait till the case is over and the results are given, in order to fully decide for themselves if Jisoo should remain in the group or not...

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  125. 7. [+159, -7] The company's going about this the wrong way. Should've
    either cut her from the group from the start or had her promote with
    them from the start. It's weird for her to come in in the middle and
    makes it uncomfortable for everyone.

    But what if she is innocent? Let some hater running their fingers on a keyboard to ruin this girl's life? Not only her idol life (which she trained for for a long time) but her daily life as well! Accusing someone as a homosexual and sexual abuser can prevent her from ever completing college and finding a place in Korea society. Esp. in Korean society where everybody judge you based on your looks and other unfounded stuff.

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  126. i literally carry my Girls' Invasion everywhere with me, for cleansing

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  127. Idk if this posted before or after the recent article but... it was fuckingjisoo not... the victim...

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  128. Don't trust Netizenbuzz. She translates the worst articles. There is another article stating that this man was the original spreader of the rumour.

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  129. Thats what im talking abt. When this rumors being spread, i still remember that knetizenz insisting that jisoo should be out of the groups/not let her promoting in the group. And Woollim basically let jisoo in hiatus which i think its a good moves. If woollim had her promote from the start when the case not even being prove yet, i dont think jisoo can promote well. People will bashing them and it will be much worser. Cut her from the group, when she is not even guilty? Cruel

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  130. I don't care for Lovelyz, they have nothing to offer to kpop. Just another girl group admist so many.
    Let's talk about ones with actual talent like Mamamoo and Spica.

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  131. But it wasn't true. I had my doubts about her and whether or not she did it but the police investigated and now I feel apologetic towards her because she's not to blame in this situation as far as we know which in no way means I don't take sexual assault seriously. And the case wasn't solved by internet detectives it was solved by the police so shouldn't you at least be apologetic to this girl who was blamed for something thats a major crime that would be a felony if convicted, had her reputation ruined and suffered mental trauma that took a toll on her health at the hands of a troll not even because she actually did this? Do you not have any empathy?

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  132. apparently that's just an attention seeker, and there's an actual victim out there somewhere.... but who knows, that could be a lie too o - o
    we'll have to see how everything plays out, but for her sake, i hope the rumors are false

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  133. She translates article with most response from netizen, whether its good or bad. The most interesting one. You know ppl all love rumors. And of course she translates that article stating police arrested that man. Be patient.

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  134. Welcome to the internet, where "humanity" is quite hard to find. :/

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  135. Totally agree. I wonder if this was not a female idol but a gag woman with not so many fans, how many people would stand up against the rumour? To me it's just a natural reaction, as long as I don't accuse her of anything, spread hate or get involved in the witch hunt.

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  136. Didn't stand a chance

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  137. She was admited into a hospital I heard? I hope she's okay.

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  138. Depends on who go arrested. There was a fake account spreading fake pics and another one called luvjisoo, who had some convincible facts and photos

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  139. No the REAL victim is Jisooluv, which was not arrested.
    The one arrested is Fucking Jisoo, who is an attention seeker.
    Go read the next NB article!

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  140. The problem is that this rumour materialised before Lovelyz debuted. Woolim should have acted swiftly and they should have delayed the debut until the case was solved.

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  141. sunny bunny (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)February 11, 2015 at 2:02 AM

    w/e i'm just excited for their comeback

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  142. I still don't regret not being neutral. I'd rather take the risk of defending a fake victim than wait for investigations which 95% end in no conviction even tho 1 in 3 girls experience sexual assault. Until this imbalance in the justice system is solved, i will always be on the victim side. Btw not shown here but statistically only 0.02% of sexual adsault victims are found to have lied.

    http://www.thejanedough.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bartdhgcyailucs.jpeg

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  143. So is the case final then that Jisoo is really innocent? The case is still ongoing based from what I've read.

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  144. But this scandal is going to be attached to their group forever? Is is worth it? You know I like Kei from this group but I'm just sad that this group would probably have the
    T-ara treatment from knetz.

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  145. isn't the investigation still ongoing? No point taking sides right now.

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  146. That's also what the court goes by. I worked with a Defender and the court is the most aggrivating thing you'll experience.

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  147. [+1,341, -205] Lovelyz failed anyway



    this pretty much

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  148. It is worth it, instead of being a heartless company it proves that they stick by their artist. Now this is when she is proven to be innocent, which doesn't seem too far off. It won't follow the group forever, scandals die down in time and soon become irrelevant. It makes no sense to keep ridiculing someone who had been proven innocent, it's pathetic at that point. I don't think her hard work should be in vain based on what someone else falsely accuses her of doing, it's unfair and unjust. But life isn't fair unfortunately.

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  149. I don't think she'll be able to comeback, the gorl's life is ruined, if she is really innocent uggh this is so sad

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  150. What? Fuck you. You would not regret blaming an innocent young victim who did nothing wrong and gets trauma due to malicious accusations just because you would rather not defend who was acused even without evidence. You were just on a side of a criminal who could have deystroyed a young girls life but you bring statisics to justify it, who cares if human feelings are involved! People these days make me speechless. Stay on no ones side cause if you are a good person you will also suspect that it may have been a fake accusation, just like how the forecast reports it will rain tomorrow, you can't bet your life on that information right?

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  151. 6. [+185, -12] Five years later: Seo Jisoo did not leave the group. She will just not be participating in this album.



    ...Kibum.

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  152. Omg, stop. Jisooluv already admitted on twitter that she wasn't a real victim. She was just following what fuckingjisoo said.

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  153. People having to go to mental hospitals because of all the harassment they get for being accused of something they didn't do in the first place is pretty fucked up. So yeah.....being neutral is still better.

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  154. Same, I cant be neutral if it involves rape. I'd rather be wrong for accusing her, than wrong for defending her.

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  155. Scandal dies down? Yeah right, remember T-ara?LOL

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  156. I hope that one day you or people close to you will be falsely accused as a rapist and have yours or their life crumbled to pieces. maybe you will change your view then.

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  157. I'm actually not fond with what particularly went on with T-ara, so no I don't remember. All scandals do die down though, it just comes with time, that is all.

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  158. being neutral also says that you don't believe a possible rape victim. i honestly hope your never put in the position where someone tells you they were raped, you'd be a terrible person to lean on

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  159. Ah yes, that 0.02% probability. Even if it was someone close to me, if im not their alibi, i would not defend them. People never want to believe it can be the ppl close to them but every rapist has a family.

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  160. I agree that rape is a very sad and important issue but I reckon that being neutral does not mean you do not believe or support the rape victim. In a case where there is little proven evidence, remaining neutral allows you to be as objective as possible and see both sides of the issue without bias. When there is enough sound evidence, then it would be wonderful to support whoever the victim is full-heartedly without lingering doubts. That's just my 2 cents, you don't have to agree with me :)

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  161. 0.02% is still a number. a number that representing a very real cases involving real human being. the fact that you cant find yourself to open your mind to consider the possibilities of false accusation and flat out blaming one parties prior to any verdict of court of law is not only inhumane but also an insult to the principles of "innocent until proven guilty" that we, civilize human being have fought so hard to establish.

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  162. I don't regret it. I feel sorry if it's not true but I always take the rape victim's side. Not taking anyone's side is nice but it doesn't change anything bc rape victims need that public support so more victims feel comfortable coming out. If nothing changes, then 95% of rapists will continue to roam free. Also, if the weather channel says it's 99.98% likely it will rain, ofc i will bring an umbrella.

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  163. To the people saying jisoo is innocent, she hasn't been proven to be. The person arrested is the person who was spreading false rumours and pretending to be another victim. The real victim has already said she has all the evidence and will be taking it to the police. So until she is officially proven innocent, stop saying she is.

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  164. Betsy's Collecting ServiceFebruary 11, 2015 at 4:44 AM

    Do you know this idol personally? I don't think so. So being neutral is still better. Giving dumb threats isn't ideal either, makes you look bad.

    Being neutral is like 50/50 - so yeah, at that time some of us would of have that thought going through our mind. It's pretty natural thing to do to over think/think of what the worst outcome could be. But common sense tells us not to over think, and wait.

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  165. NB is NOT a news site. Go read some actual articles before making statements that are bullshit. Jisooluv admitted to not being a victim.

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  166. Oh snap! Betsy, defending her bae!

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  167. Betsy's Collecting ServiceFebruary 11, 2015 at 5:04 AM

    rofl

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  168. Maybe he likes Jisoo but got unrequited or what...

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  169. I thought the man who got arrested was 'fucking Jisoo' and not the real victim ?

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  170. What if Jisoo committed suicide, something netz have forced people to do in the past?

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  171. Don't bother. Someone people just can't accept this poor girl might've killed herself over their rush to judgement so now they have to rationalize their self-righteous behavior.

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  172. If this girl committed suicide over fake evidence, it would be people like you who are at fault.

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  173. They don't want to admit they ruined this girl's life, and her group members. So they've found a way to rationalize their bullshit.

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  174. [citation needed]

    Where are your CREDIBLE sources for these claims? Aside from a barely ledgible photo?
    This sounds like the average tumblr bullshit "facts".

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  175. From what I read and heard, the scandal has been proven wrong like a months ago because of 1) the false so-called 'evidence', 2) False 'victims'. The police have yet to find who was the one who FIRST started the rumors.
    From my point of view, Seo Jisoo is innocent and is the victim here.

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  176. if she had been proven to be innocent Woolim would have released a statement a long time ago.
    they caught the idiot who spread false rumors but the fact that they are not even talking about the person who claimed to be a victim shows that they are trying to bury it.
    if there was no victim they would mediaplay a lot about them being right and Jisoo being innocent and bullied.

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  177. yo, this is not a news site. Don't believe all the shit on here ok.

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  178. jisooluv confessed to not being a victim^^

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  179. u got it wrong darling.. this man is imposter who utilised real victim's evidence to make his blog popular. while the real victim is still under investigation, so stop spreading false rumours for your lovely idol.

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  180. Yes it does. People will judge no matter what you do. We'll never be able to satisfy everyone. But it would be the best for wollim and lovelyz's career lbr. It turns out that they didnt catch the culprit?

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  181. Just because you don't like them does not mean other people are not allowed to post news about them. They are a talented group. Their title track was not able to show it.

    I like mamamoo ans spica but why bring them in a article that has nothing to so with them.

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  182. I'm personally glad that she's not leaving the group because I want her haters to see her successing and doing well with the group promotions. That's why I want her to do the CB with the group. I love that she wasn't kicked out.

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  183. Wow that person must be nuts.
    I mean if you look at it, firstly, nowadays, whatever you do on the Internet, police can still trace it back to you (obviously). So he must be really stupid to spread all of that rumors knowing the consequences that would arise after.
    Secondly, the rumors were so real. Like on a level that it couldn't be viewed as just a rumor mill or anything but a serious crime. And many people were claimed to be victims with kinda solid proofs.
    Lastly, the police and prosecutors are pretty shady in Korea (as far as I know) so we will never (by never I mean not in a million years) ever know what is the truth, plus I dont think a company is not gonna take the risk losing a group just because of one person (you know what I mean).

    In a nutshell, although I said before I'm gonna be neutral until the investigation came out BUT thinking again, there are shady things that makes me one side with k-netz.

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  184. huh, like I could consider these kind of people as being human anymore. I honestly think if by some means Jisoo kill herself, this people would be celebrating and shouting that Jisoo commit suicide out of guilt, I guaranteed it.

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  185. I agree with the "I dont care" but financially talking, idols are just business stuff.
    Idols make songs, people like it (music, looks), people buy it.
    Idols have reputation, have impact, start doing cf, bring financial benefits to brands and companies.
    And finally Kpop world helps people know more about Korea which means better for tourism and economy.

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  186. How exactly did they fail?

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  187. Jisoo was accused of rape by trolls, original allegations were different and the girl was accused of a malicious form of "bullying" to a former girlfriend with whom she had had a homosexual relationship. The person arrested is the villain who has widespread false allegations of rape but the "true" accusations towards Jisoo are still under investigation. I want to remind you that in this matter there is a person who accuses Jisoo of "bullying" and various trolls who accused Jisoo of rape... So this arrest proves that Jisoo was victim of one of the many morons who say nonsense on the internet, but does not prove that she is an innocent victim who never ruined the life of a former girlfriend... The police didn't close the investigation and Jisoo was not declared innocent and fully victim of false accusations...

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