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Wednesday, October 1, 2014

Follow Up: Jessica


Article: 'Rumors of marriage with Tyler Kwon' Jessica promoted 'BLANC' even during SNSD schedules... all of it was PPL?

Source:
TV Daily via Nate

1. [+1,841, -331] But as someone who isn't an SNSD fan, even I've noticed that Jessica was never like Sulli who skipped out on music shows, she always attended varieties and other events, and it was quite obvious that she went out of her way to make sure that her business never affected Soshi. SNSD will inevitably end promoting one day as a group so they all have to prepare their individual paths, why should Jessica be expected to go into acting like Yoona and Sooyoung? Why not business? Honestly speaking, Soshi isn't what they used to be... Taetiseo's digital ranking went straight down and Mister Mister's ranking tells all... I understand Jessica's perspective. I don't know how much the other members were affected by Jessica's business but I think the 8 of them need to be more understanding... I just find this situation so funny where they created this image for themselves like they're sisters but they're forcing Jessica to choose between SNSD and her business.

2. [+1,457, -115] Journalist ㅋㅋ What's so wrong with Jessica wearing her own sunglasses at the airport or other events? This is a bit of a stretch...

3. [+1,159, -99] They're just straight up killing her now ㅋ

4. [+82, -7] I'd wear my own sunglasses too ㅎㅎㅎ Nitpicking on her for all the wrong reasons

5. [+69, -11] Wow, is this SM's power?? Wedding rumors have already been denied but articles keep mentioning the wedding and her boyfriend and now there's even an article making her out to look like she's money crazed just for wearing her own sunglasses ㅋㅋㅋ This is scary

6. [+59, -10] Jessica should know better than anyone else that being a celebrity won't last you forever. If her dream was to go into designing, what's it matter to the rest of them if it doesn't affect them in anyway? They should just make the other members choose between SNSD and acting too to be fair.

7. [+45, -10] Who cares if she brought her boyfriend along to her film schedules. She did everything asked of her official schedule wise and never caused a problem. What more do they want from her? The members doing acting and musicals aren't completely focused on Soshi's activities and it's actually the other members like Hyoyeon and Taeyeon who've caused more harm than good. Just because they're losing out on a few CFs and sponsors, they throw her out? ...

8. [+44, -7] I'm not a fan so I don't know the details... but on the outside, it seems like Jessica's done everything asked of her and has never skipped out on a schedule or negatively impacted SNSD in any way.

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Article: Jessica, different from the other members who've been 'kicked out'... What's the reason for her systematic way of handling it?

Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate

1. [+669, -203] There are a lot of negative articles on Jessica today ㅋ I personally understand Jessica's perspective. Not that the Soshi members did anything wrong but she's still someone they've spent 15 years with. They could've handled it in a way that kept them remembered as a positive girl group. It's just unfortunate how SM or the members decided to handle it.

2. [+477, -93] Business Generation

3. [+62, -23] The Chinese fan meet yesterday was not just a simple fan meet but a large scale fan meet that continues into January. They performed 10 songs as well with various events. Jessica, however, did not attend rehearsals and tried to arrive the day of with her boyfriend ㅋㅋㅋ How could that not piss off the agency and the members? It's like holding a group presentation and having one member show up without the work and getting a free ride.

4. [+35, -8] How can anyone think Jessica prioritized SNSD first when she arrived the morning of the day they had to leave for China with her boyfriend from New York?? Jessica for acting like the victim... the other members pretending to be sad when they've known all along.. They're all the same. Their fakeness is just being revealed now. How beautiful~

5. [+21, -1] While SNSD is turning into rags and tatters... BLANC is getting some good promotion out of this.

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Article: Why did Jessica's 'counterattack' not work?

Source:
Star Today via Nate

1. [+341, -82] I work in the advertising industry... if Jessica never left SNSD while still getting married and running a fashion business, the other SNSD members would be impacted by the CF deals and sponsorships they'd no longer be receiving. Why would anyone want to sponsor a girl group with a married woman who runs her own fashion business? Jessica should've waited until next year if the members agreed to her plans but she didn't so of course the agency and the members would be negatively impacted by it. Purely from an advertiser's perspective, Jessica pulled a psycho stunt.

2. [+353, -97] Jessica said that she'd be leaving the group first at the beginning of the year and everyone agreed to her both getting married and running a business but she's the one who went back on her word. Jessica did not rehearse for their huge fan meet and appeared the day of the event with her boyfriend ㅋㅋ Why wouldn't the members get mad over that?

3. [+293, -70] The point here is that the members already agreed to her leaving the group and getting married as long as she starts her business next year but Jessica launched it in August and brought her boyfriend around everywhere, arriving to fan meets late and such. The 8 members agreed to her plans on the condition that she waits until their promotions are over. Jessica, however, changed her mind after consulting a lawyer. What more do the members need to bend over for her for? I like how Jessica never mentioned in her clarification that she went back on her word after the members already agreed to her plans.

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603 comments:

  1. Media play at its finest

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  2. No matter what I'll be on Jessica's side !

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  3. An adult woman wants to do adult things. Shocking.

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  4. Finally! THIS! Jessica never did anything wrong in GG and you expect me to belive she suddenly started to miss GG shedules for BLANC? Well, is a bit weird since BLANC exist for less than 2 months and Soshi is not even having schedule those months (but TTS). She rushed from NY to Incheon to go to the chinese FM, and posposed BLANC launching to attend KCON in LA. Fuck SM, this is all your mediaplay.

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  5. I'm so mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. It pains me so much to see something like this unfold. I'm not siding with anyone, I'm all for OT9 but at this point I just hope everything will work out well for soshi, Jessica included.

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  6. Hell, I'll be straightforward with this. I'm not an SNSD fan, never was, and never will be, but this whole scandal really interesting for me just because Ii really understood where Jessica was coming from, and for me, I feel bad for her.


    The whole "Soshi-bond" the group has emphasized on for years is all a lie, and SONES and casual fans should be aware of. It's all business and it's a scary thing, my side is with Jessica and what the girls and the company did was really unethical, both on a personal and professional level.

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  7. I'm still utterly shocked at all this tbh

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  8. What if Tyler Kwon interfered enough for the members to get fed up with Jessica. He could have been one of the big reasons

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  9. شيماء الشمري ♥October 1, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Wish the best for snsd and jessica
    Even though I hope she will come back someday :)

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  10. Go get it Jess I hope Blanc does really well, screw SM

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  11. no one's totally right or wrong. look it from each party's pov. they have a reason for doing so. imo they're too hasty in their decision.

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  12. its sickening how sm renewed her contract then threw her out of the bus. keeping her yet taking her out of the SNSD. is she gonna do her solos in sm dungeon?

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  13. "The point here is that the members already agreed to her leaving the group and getting married as long as she starts her business next year"

    Which statement was this in? Whatever, not a SNSD fan, never even paid that much attention to Jessica. But I'm a fan ( a bit late I guess). I'm not a fan of her voice but more so her independence and for making intelligent decisions to pave her future. From what I've read, she seemed like she tried her best to compromise and juggle her priorities.

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  14. I'm just not gonna be on either side. both sides have been kinda iffy. jessica mentioned in her statement that she never had plans of not being a gg member but she's openly mentioned about how she thought about leaving gg every day. and then sm is obviously use smear campaign against and they were the ones that dropped her abruptly in the first place

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  15. Fans continue to be in denial about idols growing up, and wanting to have love, marriage, babies, business..but we cant keep them inside an ageless bubble. Everyone has to grow up and move on eventually.

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  16. and as an adult, realize that her adult decisions could negatively affect her group. Face the consequences like an adult.

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  17. Still putting the marriage rumor in this....


    1. [+669, -203] There are a lot of negative articles on Jessica today ㅋ I personally understand Jessica's perspective. Not that the Soshi members did anything wrong but she's still someone they've spent 15 years with. They could've handled it in a way that kept them remembered as a positive girl group. It's just unfortunate how SM or the members decided to handle it.



    Thank you very much. I want to vote this poster...

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  18. Just stop judging when you only know /one/ version of the story. Jessica said all the things she wanted to say but the 8 other members didn't because they /can't/ so stop blaming them, please.
    I personally support both OT8 and Jessica.

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  19. 1. [+1,841, -331] But as someone who isn't an SNSD fan, even I've noticed that Jessica was never like Sulli who skipped out on music shows, she always attended varieties and other events, and it was quite obvious that she went out of her way to make sure that her business never affected Soshi. SNSD will inevitably end promoting one day as a group so they all have to prepare their individual paths, why should Jessica be expected to go into acting like Yoona and Sooyoung? Why not business? Honestly speaking, Soshi isn't what they used to be... Taetiseo's digital ranking went straight down and Mister Mister's ranking tells all... I understand Jessica's perspective. I don't know how much the other members were affected by Jessica's business but I think the 8 of them need to be more understanding... I just find this situation so funny where they created this image for themselves like they're sisters but they're forcing Jessica to choose between SNSD and her business.

    ^^^^
    YAAAAAAAAAS

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  20. 1. [+1,841, -331] But as someone who isn't an SNSD fan, even I've noticed that Jessica was never like Sulli who skipped out on music shows, she always attended varieties and other events, and it was quite obvious that she went out of her way to make sure that her business never affected Soshi. SNSD will inevitably end promoting one day as a group so they all have to prepare their individual paths, why should Jessica be expected to go into acting like Yoona and Sooyoung? Why not business? Honestly speaking, Soshi isn't what they used to be... Taetiseo's digital ranking went straight down and Mister Mister's ranking tells all... I understand Jessica's perspective. I don't know how much the other members were affected by Jessica's business but I think the 8 of them need to be more understanding... I just find this situation so funny where they created this image for themselves like they're sisters but they're forcing Jessica to choose between SNSD and her business.



    thank you, these are my same exact thoughts. she didn't ditch her schedules, she even flew in at 4AM to attend SNSD's fanmeet... yet she was told she was dropped? i'm not a sone, but i feel so unfair for her. i can't even imagine how betrayed and hurt she must be feeling to be told that she's out of a group she spent 15 years, more than half her life, for by people who she thought were her friends.

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  21. This whole thing is a mess

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  22. meh no one's given a valid reason why she couldn't start her own business, and i'll never get why tyler following her around is such a big deal. She's 25 years old, let he drag her man along if she wants.

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  23. I support both parties, but I think there is something more to this, especially after Krystal rep statement. Imo if Krystal made such a decision it's because she disagrees with some of Jessica's choices or else she would have jumped ship with her...

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  24. being a big bitch is one thing, use it as a victim card is another. good job smart bitch

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  25. SM wanted to play the evil empire. They've succeed

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  26. [+1,159, -99] They're just straight up killing her now ㅋ


    Yep. Threw her under the bus and now the SM media machine will finish her off. Just tragic.

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  27. what they mean about her "ditching schedules" was that she may have never attended the practices for the fan meets and didnt go to behind the scenes stuff because she wasn't in korea but they don't have proof of that

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  28. Stop blaming it on Tyler. He has been nothing but supportive of Jessica's business and everything he has said on his social media accounts has only been to protect her image.

    Jessica's business wouldn't have even happened (her dream) if Tyler didn't support her.

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  29. well those other adult women in her group were quite shocked then

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  30. im the same age as jessica and if anyone is going to tell me that making plans for my own career moves is wrong imma slap them.

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  31. And more than that, we need to remember that Jessica was scouted, which means that she may not have aspired to be a singer/celebrity in the first place..

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  32. You don't even know what really happened. She can talk and explain her version of the story but the 8 other girls can't and people keep blaming them, this is unfair, really.

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  33. so... how does that contrast with what stuiogalbi said at all?

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  34. XXX_BAPxSECRETxUNTOUCHOctober 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    I dont even care any more. But im on jessica's side tho lol

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  35. Was Jessica skipping out on practice proven?


    She wasn't planning to be married. She didn't call that lawyer. And the CF explanation makes little to no sense. The top comments need to fact check before posting.

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  36. But they haven't thus far right? I feel like they jumped the gun in assuming that her decisions would negatively affect the group.

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  37. A lot of people are saying "SM this" and "SM that" but the fact that the members of SNSD were apart of pushing Jessica out of the group shows a lot internal groupproblems too. SM is a shitty company, no doubt about it, but the members seem to have a lot influence in the matter.

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  38. the dispatch article, which they got info from "inside sources"

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  39. 1. [+1,841, -331] But as someone who isn't an SNSD fan, even I've noticed that Jessica was never like Sulli who skipped out on music shows, she always attended varieties and other events, and it was quite obvious that she went out of her way to make sure that her business never affected Soshi. SNSD will inevitably end promoting one day as a group so they all have to prepare their individual paths, why should Jessica be expected to go into acting like Yoona and Sooyoung? Why not business? Honestly speaking, Soshi isn't what they used to be... Taetiseo's digital ranking went straight down and Mister Mister's ranking tells all... I understand Jessica's perspective. I don't know how much the other members were affected by Jessica's business but I think the 8 of them need to be more understanding... I just find this situation so funny where they created this image for themselves like they're sisters but they're forcing Jessica to choose between SNSD and her business.



    What this person said...thank goodness not all are stupid here

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  40. As a sone, I don't want to see her leave but I understand her and sones will always support her. I know she said she felt betrayed by the people she trusted, I hope she's able to heal from that and move on and do what she wants to do. I wish her good luck and always the best, don't pay attention to negative articles!

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  41. So not the official SM statement but "inside sources"? There's been so many statements, I've lost tract on which ones are official.

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  42. She as been in America for a while with TK (rumored to be looking for designer schools), the other girls were reharsing for the fanmeet, so yeah technically she skipped...

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  43. Sigh... my sone heart..

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  44. Nobody knows shit and they already taking sides jfc.
    That media play tho.

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  45. LET THE MEDIA DIRTY CAMPAIGN AGAINST JESSICA BEGINS!!!!!! BRAVO SM BRAVOOOOO

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  46. fashion school in NY, clothing line in China, marriage (?) and a PART-TIME idol? how is that even going to work out. How is that fair to the other 8 members?

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  47. Talk for your self , my made book group of sones ' sones for nine all agree to leave jessica and support opt8

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  48. Even if that's true, comparatively Jessica has not missed nearly as many events or appearances as the other members over the past 7 years. And she was also up front about where she was when she wasn't there so it's not like she just left. Most people knew she was in New York and she was even about to fly all the way to China for the fanmeet.

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  49. the members don't care if this hurts y'all's feelings... and she's still under SM so I mean... this "drama" got boring real fast.

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  50. I'm more baffled that people actually believed this bond of these skinny jeans wearing pretty Korean girls was real. LOL. There are a few select groups that do seem genuinely close, but growing up and seeing KPOP, no matter how much their fans emphasized how close they were, they just looked like a sorority of pretty girls that was forced to put up with one another.

    On a more serious note, I do not like SNSD, never have, nor will I ever — but, I understand Jessica's choices. Whether or not SNSD stayed together forever, money wouldn't. Even if they became the female Shinhwa, there is going to be new groups, with fresh faces and brighter personalities. You don't exactly see Shinhwa pulling in all the deals now would you? Her business and alleged marriage would affect them for about a few months but at the end of the day, SNSD, like all the groups fans push as legendary are starting to get washed up and are even charting lower than rookies who just sneeze out a bubbly track. Everything comes to an end guys, get over it.

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  51. on the same day of the inauguration of Jessica's Blanc, SM launched exo photobook called ”Die Jungs”

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  52. been seeing the same comment everywhere

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  53. why would sm start a smear campaign against her if she's still under their label for solo work?

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  54. The power of 9 they said.........

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  55. Okay so I'm confused anyone mind explaining this to me?

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  56. Marriage rumour was bogus. I don't know about the other stuff. She said she'd manage her schedules well, she's done it thus far so why not trust her a bit more. They should have had a trial period before an ultimatum was presented.

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  57. this netizen speaking the truth.

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  58. But where rehearsals even scheduled? TTS is busy with promotions, Soo is busy with her drama, just because they are in Korea does not mean that they are rehearsing too for the fan meet.

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  59. I think fans too often forget that so much of what we see is a controlled image. Either by the company or the idol themselves. When the cameras are on, you become the person you want everyone to think you are.


    What we see and know about these people is such a SMALL part of who they actually are.


    Also, did I miss when it became an indisputable fact that Jessica was going to leave? That she resigned suggests the opposite.

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  60. wasn't jessica going to to this anyway, stop doing snsd promotions next year? the problem is that sm tried to do it early on when jessica still had plans for continuing for a little bit longer. sm was going to say she was sick and then probably reveal later on that jessica decided to leave the group or whatever, jessica just beat them to it by mentioning she was fired first.


    snsd and jessica were planning to part from each other for a while and they both agreed. it just seems like sm dumped jessica first and thats the problem

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  61. Bless this comment. You and a couple other netizens get it.

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  62. Where does this talk of her wanting to leave the group earlier this year originate from? or her skipping practice? or her arriving late to fanmeets? I don't know which one is worse, SM or netizens jumping into the hate bandwagon.

    I swear if I see articles about snsd crying on their fanmeets and how it must have been difficult for the, I'd go ballistic.

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  63. Or maybe Krystal has her own contract, career and group to think about. She can't possible leave f(x) now with Sulli MIA and she has commitments like the drama with Rain.

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  64. You know she was away in New York and then suddenly rushed back the day of to fly to China. Depending on how long she was away, she missed rehearsals and other BTS stuff that's required for their fan meet tour. If the other members faithfully attended all this stuff and Jessica was no where to be found, then the members had a right to be upset. Then because of her absence they had to make up for one person missing.

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  65. this entire thing is complete bull. just like the netizen's said in the comments why not kick out taeyeon who's scandal affected them more? or hyoyeon who's image goes down the more she hangs out with her ex or boyfriend or whatever they are and seems to be getting in more trouble each time? wasn't it just that one incident that she didn't attend the rehearsal and arrived with tyler but that's all everyone is talking about without mentioning any other instances where she didn't meet her schedule. she not only focuses on her business but she always focuses on snsd as well. i really think this is unfair to her who sent so many years of her life training and performing with these girls only to be thrown out when she finds something else she likes. it was more selfish of the members to make her choose between her dream and the group than it was for her to begin her business in the first place.

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  66. 3. [+62, -23] The Chinese fan meet yesterday was not just a simple fan meet but a large scale fan meet that continues into January. They performed 10 songs as well with various events. Jessica, however, did not attend rehearsals and tried to arrive the day of with her boyfriend ㅋㅋㅋ How could that not piss off the agency and the members? It's like holding a group presentation and having one member show up without the work and getting a free ride.

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  67. Isn't Jaejoong doing all of that, plus acting — just not the fashion school? LOL. I'm sure he has a girlfriend/boyfriend he is very close to. People are just looking for excuses to blame Jessica when she obviously isn't in the wrong for wanting to make her own future. These girls are growing, they aren't going to stick to their mediocre pop tracks forever. Their charting, rankings and all of that are at an all time low. The only thing making them stay afloat is their experience and namesake.

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  68. This whole saga is like a collision in a street and there were no witnesses to properly report so sides keep throwing dirt at each other. (Metaphorically speaking)


    Both Jessica and SNSD/SM made a huge mistake but since we don't know every single detail that happened during talks between them we will never get a grip on the situation. In that case, better stay Switzerland then to choose a side.

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  69. I still see nothing wrong with what she did and Ima stunt on a bitch if I see anyone tag "#ot8". Call me whatever you want.

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  70. she went to night club w/ tyler in hk and the next day taeyeon and yoona got reported... lol just can't imagine how they can bear her

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  71. Her rep is also SM rep, not really impartial. If it was coming from Krystal herself, then it would have some weight, but a rep that works for the same company, ermm no.

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  72. Business Generation lol

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  73. C'mon shes coming from new york with her boyfriend doesnt mean they were on a lovey dovey date. She was from new york, finishing her reality show with krystal, and from what i know tyler kwon just follow her. All these people...sigh

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  74. As a Sone, I just wanna get this all over with. I'm not picking any side bcos I'm want both Jessica and SNSD to do successful and happy even if it breaks my heart to know that it'll never be the same again. I'm staying, for both SNSD and Sica<3 I just hope that they'll resolve whatever problems they have with one another. I believe that no matter what, 7+ years of friendship is not something that can be easily abandoned like that.

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  75. TTS, Sooyoung, & Sunny may have been busy, but they're all still in Korea and could easily attend a later practice session or something. I am sure that all of them had their schedules adjusted so that they are able to attend the needed rehearsals and meetings. You can't easily do that in another country.

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  76. if i recall correctly, theres been like two dispatch articles, one statement from sm saying that jessica was no longer a member but she's still under sm, one professional statement from jessica, and then the weibo post from jessica herself.

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  77. there is always practice before any public event, especially if it involve performances, it's like standard procedure

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  78. I am so disgusted with Soshi8 right now, words cannot describe on how infuriated I am . All that money and time that we invested on believing in their fake ass "Soshibond"...It's a huge slap in the face and we have every right to be angry about it.

    Indestructible my ass. They had us all fooled. Anyone defending Taeyeon deserves to be slapped.

    Bye Felicia (SNSD)

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  79. SNSD's group endorsements have been in decline for the past couple of years--way before Blanc was launched. Any future group endorsements they lose is not because of Jessica's business, either.

    The real reason they are not receiving many group endorsements is because their brand name is just too expensive for these Korean companies. They are all flocking to the new trendy groups--Sistar--because they are cheaper and more affordable.

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  80. They did this to JYJ too, SM is fucking evil man, they'll try to turn everything on her. I hope she sues their ass.

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  81. It's always gonna be a war of ot9 and ot8, it doesn't matter because ot9 fans will always support Jessica.

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  82. Exactly my thoughts i'm not picking sides here, i'm just going to support all 9, i hope they will be succeed with this choice they just made

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  83. No, suing is what they want her to do. It's best, she just remain with her sister just as name alone.

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  84. http://oi54.tinypic.com/9v8rih.jpg

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  85. Most of the songs performed were the lead singles, like The Boys, Gee, Genie, Mr Taxi. They've been performed for years I doubt they'd need to rehearse much.

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  86. WHY would she sue them if she's still under their label????????????? She's still working for them. If they wanted her out of the label completely, they would have done that themselves.

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  87. exactly, do remember that schedules includes recordings for albums, practices and rehearsals too. and obviously the public wont know about this. its not only public events -.-

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  88. jessica = sunye.

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  89. yeah lol I'm just explaining what i think they were trying to say in the comments

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  90. I spy with my little eye, some SM staff comments~
    Can you see them? I can...
    Basically in the real comments, Jessica seems to have a lot of support from the netizens, which is good to see.

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  91. i thought that show was done a month ago

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  92. I know. I'm just saying.

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  93. Suing won't get her anywhere. They never terminated her contract and you never know there might be an actual reason for their actions. Instead of saying SM is evil, go look into what's actually going on.

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  94. But that is the point, just because they are in the same country you are assuming that they were attending rehearsals. Being a lead in a drama takes most of the day, many actresses complain about how they can only get 2 hours of sleep when they are filming, do you think SY was skipping filming or sleep to rehearse?


    So you think there was even rehearsals for the fan meet? They usually do a rehearsal at the venue, that one Jessica missed because she was not allowed to go.

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  95. sucks cause were probably not going to hear the snsd members give a statement themselves


    ill patiently wait for sooyoung's tell-all book 10 years from now

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  96. stop absolving jessica from any blame or part in this. she made a promise too that she didn't keep. both the company and members were perfectly fine with her starting her business after january, she's the one that rushed ahead. regardless of whether you think it interfered with their schedules or not, she went against an understanding in the work place. the way it's ended is messy but she's not innocent either.


    there was never any BLANC launch to attend in the first place, so why wouldn't she be at KCON? only a website, which crashed, not postpone. it's not like she was sitting there launching the servers.

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  97. Also, there is a rehearsal at the venue. Most likely they were going with that one alone.


    Jessica could not attend that one because she was not allowed to go, she was kicked before.

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  98. Don't spread common sense ! It's contagious !

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  99. Exactly. Did SM play a big role in this? Absolutely , but Jessica anger with SM is very light. She knows how SM plays dirty, so there was likely no shock factor in that. However she stated clearly several times that she is upset with her fellow members, and it's sickening that people are still refusing to believe that.

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  100. Then where was Krystal? As far as I know she's been in Korea filming her drama, I don't think she'd have time to go to New York to film a reality show.

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  101. honestly i think it just the different priorities between jessica and the other girls.. there is nothing wrong with jess want to do business or married or something else.. meanwhile the other girls keep prioritizing in snsd.. if i was the other member, i will be pissed to if jess suddenly jess flew to NY for her business, when we still in the middle of talk about the future of the group..

    and ofcourse looking from how jess's business growing so fast, she will prioritize that first.. i'm study in business, imo jess's business was build too fast and it was too risky..

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  102. The netizen speaks the truth. SONES be downvoting the comments that hurt the current 8 girls' reputation, but in reality... they had a decision to make, and they all mutually agreed to ask Jessica to step down. Truth really does hurt.. don't act like the other 8 girls aren't at fault and purely just blaming it on SM.

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  103. there could be a difference in stage layout depending on the venue. sm might not be able to recreate the stage according to how its supposed to be like

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  104. some articles say that if Blanc fails, Jessica is responsible for 40 million dollars in investments.

    I kind of understand why Jessica COULDN'T leave Blanc even if she wanted to because there was already so much invested into it, she also already signed several contracts.

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  105. There's always rehearsal for things like this, it doesn't matter if the songs were lead singles. There's always something to discuss and rehearse.

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  106. As such a popular group, I doubt that the 9 members can practice at the same time. The practices are adapted according to the free time of each member... is the most logical.

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  107. some articles say: if Blanc fails, Jessica is responsible for 40 million dollars in investments.
    I kind of understand why Jessica COULDN'T leave Blanc even if she wanted to because there was already so much invested into it, she also already signed several contracts.

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  108. but jaejoong's activities are all in korea? whereas Jessica will have to skip promotions, tours, concerts because she has other responsibilities at her foreign fashion school, probably in NY and her clothing line in China. How is she going to juggle all 3 and a rumored marriage. Besides didn't she plan to leave the group sooner or later anyways? SM just pulled the plug on her sooner rather than later.

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  109. i get people that might think that... but these are all songs that they've performed hundreds of times before. what kind of rehearsal would they actually need? some of them were just them sitting in chairs and standing around too. i think the whole "didn't show up to practice" thing isn't justifiable, considering other members have missed out on plenty of stuff for their acting careers (events, performances, concerts, etc) and jessica has made it to everything (even if she did miss a few practices). you'd think they put into consideration how she worked her butt off for more than half her life as an SNSD member before giving her the boot. it's sad to see how Jessica was so happy doing something she was so passionate about and working hard to balance her business and SNSD activities and she gets dropped for it, but it's okay if other members skip stuff because they have filming or something. not directing this at you, just in general

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  110. So much variation in Netizens' opinions in all of these different posts. I'm trying to stay neutral myself, but I have to admit this: " I just find this situation so funny where they created this image for
    themselves like they're sisters but they're forcing Jessica to choose
    between SNSD and her business" is a good point.
    The comment from the person working in advertising would certainly explain why SNSD would want to kick her out but it just doesn't sit well with me when they all seemed so close.

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  111. for me some of the hate comments seem to be written by sm staff.......esp in this http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/09/jessica-releases-official-statement.html?m=1.....idk why but it seems so

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  112. Yup, Jae has Moldir and JHolic plus has had success as a solo artistband as part of JYJ. Junsu has Toscana plus his musi als and Yoochun a successful actor. JYJ have proved that members can be successful individually and still be together as a group. They would have never been able to do this under SM.

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  113. There's obviously some missing details here and I'm still skeptical in regards to both sides. It's impossible to know who's telling the truth without more evidence.

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  114. Seems like SM has started their counterattacks huh?

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  115. 2pm still accept sponsors and taec still has ok cat. Why cant jess where her own stuff . Thats just stupid loads of stars hav their own buisness n shit. Being in a group shouldnt make a difference.snsd where more than 1 brand of clothes n shit. Look at yg there is chanel but bigbang still get and are asked to be sponsored as all artists

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  116. Yet Jessica went back on her word and asked the members and SM if she could continue with SNSD and both said that it was okay (this is after she had stated that in July she couldn't do SNSD anymore, and after she revealed she wanted to get married).

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  117. Yes she actually could because Sooyoung has done it before.
    Rehearsals and meetings often happen before then there's always a sound check and rehearsal at the venue.
    Tbh We don't even know what really happened and why, I was only stating that if she was away in another country for some time then there was obviously things she missed.

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  118. Die Jungs meaning 'the boys' in German



    LOL

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  119. I actually thanked half of knetizens who commented on this problem like the one you emphasized. This is exactly my opinion in this case. Selfish opinion, tbh to "kick" Jessica outta snsd just because of her business. She is smart as hell!

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  120. it's not shocking that people blame the other 8 when both Jessica and SM stated that the other 8 opposed BLANC

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  121. And don't act like the 8 girls are totally at fault and that Jessica is the poor victim who hasn't done /anything/ wrong.


    Geez, you people need to stop talking like you were there when they took this decision, this is really annoying.

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  122. Why do people keep saying this. have you been keeping up at all? the other 8 have already told their side. there was an article about what the members and even their parents wanted jessica out.
    in other words you are waiting for a phony OT9 sob story right?

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  123. we know but if 'the boys' were "Die SM" in German do you think the company would put that name?

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  124. its shocking because she spent 14 years with them. 14 years of her life with people she took as family but now that has faded into a big puff of smoke.

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  125. i hope Blanc is successful for Jessica's sake. I don't want to see her in some type of VH1 Behind the Music documentary seven years from now because she went broke and had to extort money from people

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  126. I am not picking any sides tbh..We don't know the truth only OT9 and SM knows..so I will keep supporting OT9♡

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  127. SM are really trying their best to ruin her image and it looks like it's working .__.
    I really want SHINee out of this damn company before they ruin them as well.

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  128. Huh, source? Because they haven't told anything.

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  129. [+35, -8] How can anyone think Jessica prioritized SNSD first when she arrived the morning of the day they had to leave for China with her boyfriend from New York?? Jessica for acting like the victim... the other members pretending to be sad when they've known all along.. They're all the same. Their fakeness is just being revealed now. How beautiful~



    i don't get how this comment is trying to "prove" how Jessica hasn't prioritized SNSD by bringing up that she came back to Korea the morning she was suppose to leave for China.

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  130. speaking of KCON, Sooyoung was able to excuse herself from showing up at the event completely because of her drama schedule. I remember was it Yuri or Yoona missing out on another US event when they were in LA last time due to drama too. I have always seen Jessica show up to all events so I don't see how she's being uncommitted due to her business

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  131. If Jessica really didn't care she would have stayed in NY searching for fashion schools or whatever

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  132. yes i know 0T9 isn't real and I'm being delusional but tiffany's brother is liking pics on instagram about bringing jessica back and all this ot9 crap ugh </3


    best of luck to jessica and the other members in their individual endeavors

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  133. Whether you think Jessica is right or wrong these character assassinations are not anything other than low and dirty and anyone with any kind of morals will realize that. It didn't have to go down like this, but when you're dealing with a company that has mafia tendencies this is only the tame stuff unfortunately. Much worse is on its way...
    I've never been a Jessica or SNSD fan, but right is right and wrong is wrong. I just hope Jessica comes out of this ok because SM is obviously out for blood.

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  134. Jessica never missed out any SNSD events. Yes. But what goes on behind the scenes is what probably matters because they reached this breaking point. It's like going to school, attending your class but not doing your homework, participating in lectures and listening to the teacher because your mind is somewhere else - your extracurricular activities like sports club (you're the team captain), drama club (you're the president), etc. You only need to focus on one but you can't and you wanted both.

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  135. I feel like even if Jess was being unreasonable, even if they were sure her actions would cut into their profits, it still would be way more worth it monetarily in the long run to just placate her. Like this is the WORST thing that could have happened to their image. Sheesh.

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  136. Um SM never said that

    SM statement: "This spring, Jessica herself said that due to personal reasons, she would stop group activities after one album promotion. With Jessica's sudden words, the company and Girls' Generation members have been continuously thinking and working hard to have Girls' Generation promote in a good direction. Recently, Jessica started a fashion-related business while there were lacking mediation in orders of priority with Girls' Generation's promotions and interests. Despite continuous discussions, we've gotten to the point where the group cannot be maintained. We couldn't help but decide to move up Girls' Generation promoting as 8 than initially planned. During the announcement and process, Jessica made her posts today at dawn, her time. The 8-member Girls' Generation and Jessica's individual activities will continue with unchanged support and management."

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  137. We don't know what actually happened bts, none of us were there and it's premature to take Jessica's & SM's statement at face value. There is obviously more to the story that we aren't aware of, but I will say don't completely write off some of these comments because Korean fans always know more than any of us ever will. Don't assume anything that isn't completely pro-Jessica is written by a SM staff member, that's only perpetuating your blind hatred for SM and will only feed your delusion that everything is their fault.
    From the little details we have, I can see it from both sides and can understand Jessica & SM. Stop trying to find someone to blame and look into things that we do know and the details that are slowly emerging. Maybe SM had a valid reason for removing her from the group, from the things that are coming out about Tyler and his involvement, I can see why things probably took a sudden turn. I know Jessica was super happy to finally have her designs to be seen by everyone, this has been her dream for years. But on the other side, we should also understand the others and why they may have been worried about her or her priorities. As said, we haven't gotten the full story and don't assume that everything in Jessica's statement is 100% fact on the other hand don't assume that SM is 100% fact as well. Something obviously went wrong and neither party is 100% at fault or innocent.

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  138. Either it's a mistranslation or the netizen who posted that comment is not in his/her right state of mind lol

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  139. she has been rather late to some events but she has always had the common decency to turn up...

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  140. I can say that to the people continuing to shield the 8 girls. People are assuming that it's all SMs fault and the girls had no choice, but in actuality, everyone makes their own decisions.

    Stop pinpointing the blame only at the company when there are more people to blame on this fiasco. Jessica was wronged.

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  141. Eh I actually doubt that other members do not take the exact same steps as Jessica's.. And let me correct one thing that Jessica is a FULL TIME idol and PART TIME fashionpreneur. That's why she said that she always puts SNSD before anything including her business. Clear enough her current priority is still SNSD until perhaps next year and no one needs to be blamed for that.

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  142. On an unrelated note, those shades are ugly

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  143. I am glad Jessica left this hell hole of a company. Jessica live your live and enjoy yourself. They don't want you then that is their problem. Do what you want and achieve your dreams.

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  144. their reps did and it was through Dispatch

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  145. I am sad that it had to end this way, but at the same time I am happy that we now know the truth about SNSD. Kicking a member out when she has been nothing but faithful to your team for 10+ years, then have the nerve to ridicule her on SNS, then have fake tears falling down their cheeks as if they are sadden by whole thing,when they had kickedher out in the first. All of those things above shouldn't be the behavior that we all should be idolizing. Pursuing your dream, and investing a project for you to prosper your future, is something that we should be idolizing.

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  146. Tyler Kwon raised money for the invested capital with Jessica's name.
    He did it before with Gillian Chung's name too.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By3P5Y2IUAAhpgt.jpg

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  147. Well unfortunately this is Korea the way they do business is different the only women I see that can talk actively promote after getting married or having kids are actresses. Let's be real it's not fair and we don't like it but theirs prejudice against women in Korea and from a business point of view what she's doing does affect the group even if we see nothing wrong with it

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  148. Technically she's still with the company though since she just renewed her contract... But yeah she should just YOLO and spill everything so as to limit the amount of time SM has to react

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  149. Yes because someone who doesn't agree with Jessica is obviously working for SM.

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  150. "Besides didn't she plan to leave the group sooner or later anyways? SM just pulled the plug on her sooner rather than later."


    And so..? SM pulled the plug and created their 50th scandal this year instead of banking on her last few moments as a member like smart business men would. Now the members are viewed as catty, Jessica is seen as a catty and the "9" thing went down in flames instead of gracefully bowed out.

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  151. it's not about individual endorsements, it's about group endorsements. snsd have contracts as 9, 9 is their brand. for some of the members it's the only endorsement money they make.

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  152. Unfortunately many women in SK stop working once they get married or pregnant, so I'm guessing she would kind of be expected to retire along with her group if that happened. I mean, she's not even a singer, she's an idol, and idols are kind of people who milk out on teenage fans with fun songs and cute smiles you know. I can see why they think that wouldn't work, not that I agree.

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  153. 80% of people blame the 8 girls, just look at the comments on here. It's freaking annoying. If she got kicked out and if the 8 girls wanted to kick her out, there must be a reason, I can't believe it's just because of her sunglasses.

    You really think Hyoyeon, Yoona, Yuri, Tiffany care enough about freaking sunglasses to ask Jessica to leave? Plus, Tyler Kwon -the center of BLANC-, is Hyoyeon's boyfriend's BFF.

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  154. That's why I say there's far more than what we're being told by both sides and I doubt we'll ever know the full story. It's all kind of odd to me.

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  155. I think there's more. They wouldn't fucked up 8 years for a petty things like this. I don't know, but if the little about the story we know; the 8 members agreeing to Jessica leaving, then I'm really disappointed.

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  156. I think Jessica is brave enough to cross through Taeyeon's borders.

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  157. more than anything it seems this whole thing is the consequence of the 9 members and their choices. So technically all of them are at fault

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  158. off topic but who exactly is this Tyler kwon guy ???

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  159. I love this comment because it shows how the situation is regretful in the way it was handled and it doesn't bash the group as much either. Unlike a lot of international nets that love to side with the underdog (I'm not complaining because im a SONE and i love the support Jessica's getting) but totally saying the group's at fault is also kind of childish when we haven't heard their statement. And no one knows if all 8 of them agreed to this or it was their parents getting involved etc.

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  160. I probably do not like youOctober 1, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Im still with Jessica on this. Coz i mean, why are they all working hard again? Yes, to have a better life, to have things on their own. If she can make her life better by running a business, her own business, why not?! Not her fault if the other members did not do anything to secure their own asses.

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  161. Yeah but it was the other 8 who kicked her out

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  162. Lol She didn't leave SM, they're still managing her.

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  163. Just try to connect ALL things we know until now... It just doesn't make sense...

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  164. Whilst I agree with you, I think you replied to the wrong person.

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  165. I think apart from cutting into SM's profits, perhaps they do not want anyone to have a side business that might act as a backup plan in case an idol decides to just pack up and leave. They would want to cut off all backup plans so that their fate depends solely on SM

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  166. Yeah nothing is making any sense. They were happy for her, but then turned on her a month later? That's weird considering they were happy for her. Something else happened that caused this.

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  167. exactly! people are just pressed. shes not the only idol to do so. not mentioning names (for fans sake) there's also that one idol that travels a lot but always lands on the day and six hours later, she goes back to incheon airport with the group and doesn't miss the intended schedule.

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  168. i think its okay for the acting members to miss out on schedules cause at the end of the day, their shows/ movies does add value to the SNSD name. while sica missing out on her schedules for BLANC doesnt add any added value. its similar to how a company will allow you to take time off to go for courses approved by the company to upgrade your skill. but if let's say you're missing out on work cause you're held up cause of let's say a part time job, the hr dept have a right to give you lesser pay. then again im just rambling on. lol.

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  169. No my bad. You're good. I got confused. I've edited.

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  170. who to believe? who is to blame?

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  171. Actually the others are working on things to secure their futures, it's may not be business wise like Jessica, but they're working on it.
    We don't know how it all went down so we can't say much about their meetings why they were suddenly against some things.

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  172. yo...tbh her sunglasses are not well designed. they're overly big and weirdly shaped. sure, they fit jessica, but it's not well catered to the public.

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  173. It's not going to affect individual members getting CFs. But as a group getting sponsors and endorsements . The group--besides Yoona---gets paid a whole lot more together than with their individual CFs.

    The image of 9 Girls generation members is so engraved into people's head that no one is going to just cast 8.

    Marriage and buisness would get in the way of Soshi the group getting sponsors and endorsements. Like Soshi the group won't be able to endorse anything fashion related anymore bc of Sica and blanc. And marriage is honestly for an idol is just not looked favorably upon and that's Korea for you. You either take it or leave it

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  174. I probably do not like youOctober 1, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    hah! SM doesnt want that example. They couldnt just let anyone they nurtured to stardom to leave them once its well on their own. That is business competition.

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  175. hes a CEO of several companies. lets just say his companies make way more money than SM could ever produce.

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  176. i am with the majority this time. jessica's statement doesn't make sense to me? not saying anything about what she did? her relationship with Tyler Kwon? LOL. in business perspective, this statement is misleading~

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  177. "Article: Why did Jessica's 'counterattack' not work?"

    Because you in the media are being paid by SM to smear her relentlessly regardless of facts or truth, and most of the public are dumb enough to eat it up because they're thirsty for another witch hunt.

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  178. 5. [+21, -1] While SNSD is turning into rags and tatters... BLANC is getting some good promotion out of this.

    I didn't pay much notice before but today went and checked out the official BLANC site. I really really liked the sunglasses. Hmm...need to start making my Christmas wishlist. LOL

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  179. Jae's Moldir will be released into China market soon too.
    As I know Ukiss- AJ is studying in US and he is in hiatus for few months and still continue with some of Ukiss activities. Why can't the other 8 members allow Jess to do something similar with the promise that she will attend most of SNSD's promotions and keep the so-called soshibond going? If they allow Jess to focus on both her fashion line and SNSD promotions, fans will even compliment SNSD, and labelled them as understanding ladies who fight for the unity of the group, while all members having their own solo activities/projects. It is a bit selfish to ask Jess to choose either her business or SNSD since a lot of money has been invested in the business. Now with poor management, SNSD image is ruined and i don't think this would be good for SNSD this way.

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  180. Nope because many SM artists have side businesses that can be backup plans for their post-idol life. Donghae & Yesung have side ventures so SM not wanting her to have that can't be true.

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  181. I'm happy for Jessica in deciding to make big moves with her personal life. But I'm concerned she's doing it with the wrong guy.


    After their break up, Gillian implied Tyler was controlling and emotionally abusive. Not the kind of guy you want to date or marry.

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  182. Dood With MustacheOctober 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    I doubt that all eight of them kicked Jessica out. I mean maybe some did agree to this decision, but seriously would Hyo Tiff Yoona agreed to kick Jess out? It's hard to imagine. Maybe SM doesn't want to come off as the villain in this mess. Maybe they did felt the pressure from their parents, who only wanted the best for their daughter eventhough the final decision hurt someone in the end, and SM so they come to a conclusion so rapidly without much thoughts.

    We only hear Jessica's side, and I'm hoping her official statement doesn't involve Tyler drafting out any part. We haven't heard the other eight's sides. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Do any of you guys that are calling 8 other members bitches have any prove that it was their decision to kick Jessica out? No, you took Jessica's words for it.

    How did Jess use SNSD's name to BLANC indirectly? Well because she's in SNSD. Her fans, us SONEs, including myself, support her business. We got the words out for her. If it was any ordinary person starting BLANC, I doubt that it's as successful as Jess' BLANC. How could you say there's not even a friendship to and that everything was made for broadcast. Just because there's a feud, doesn't mean that there haven't been friendship between them all these years. Both sides are behaving rapidly and come to a conclusion where it doesn't benefit any of them, except for the fact that BLANC's getting some advertisement off this, too many thing's happening in such a short period of time.

    I'm not picking sides and I can't tell you what to do, I love Jessica and the other eight. But it's not fair that people are already picking sides when you only know one part of the story. Nothing is set and stone. Not yet anyways.

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  183. 3. [+62, -23] The Chinese fan meet yesterday was not just a simple fan meet but a large scale fan meet that continues into January. They performed 10 songs as well with various events. Jessica, however, did not attend rehearsals and tried to arrive the day of with her boyfriend ㅋㅋㅋ How could that not piss off the agency and the members? It's like holding a group presentation and having one member show up without the work and getting a free ride.



    This. Sure thing she was there at every event but she didn't really seem to be there with the girls during the process. Well, they freed her before she wanted to leave and ditch everyone. Jessica, you're so set. Live well and don't cry like you're the victim. You're losing nothing from this. It's the 8 members who have to meet the public's eyes from now on.

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  184. . [+341, -82] I work in the advertising industry... if Jessica never left SNSD while still getting married and running a fashion business, the other SNSD members would be impacted by the CF deals and sponsorships they'd no longer be receiving. Why would anyone want to sponsor a girl group with a married woman who runs her own fashion business? Jessica should've waited until next year if the members agreed to her plans but she didn't so of course the agency and the members would be negatively impacted by it. Purely from an advertiser's perspective, Jessica pulled a psycho stunt.

    Been saying this since day 1.

    A lot of girls generation revenue comes from CFs bc the company actually takes less of cut from their income so the most money goes to the members. By having jessica being married and running her business Soshi won't be able to take group endorsements and sponsors anymore. Especially anything related to fashion. Which ding ding is the probably bulk of the CFs they shoot.

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  185. That's what I'm saying - it's not totally OT8's fault, and Jessica's not the victim who hasn't done anything wrong. Things are not black or white.

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  186. or if SM threatened them to agree in some way :/


    I also love this comment. at this point, I don't really care who's right and who's wrong. I'm just deeply regretful that they ruined SNSD's image forever. I mean, the dating scandals tarnished their image but this...this broke it forever. I can't believe either side would want that to happen. 9 members was their pride and joy. Now what?

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  187. can this post get bumped up to the top please

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  188. Like, if it was my bias group, maybe I'd be denying it too. You have it engraved into your mind that these people are best friends and are inseparable until their company tears them apart because that's exactly what they tell you. "SNSD will be nine forever". And we believe it. We all want to think that their bond will be for as long as possible...but at the end of the day, they're just group mates and this is their job. I'm sure there are a lot of close friends in the business. Maybe there will be more groups like Shinhwa that stay together for 10+ years...but I feel like that's going to be a small minority. It's scary to think where all these idols will go once their company decides there's no use for them anymore. With 30+ groups debuting every year...

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  189. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingOctober 1, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    SM is trying to make people hate Jessica. They did it with JYJ.

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  190. Why is everyone dragging the marriage into this? *Groan louder*

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  191. don't understand how people can blame the other members when it's clear that Jessica broke the conditions they all agreed to, she not only digged her own grave but that of the other members too

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  192. Ikr. people don't have a strong argument with the whole "she could have missed practices, recordings blah blah blah". A lot of these stuff happen behind the scenes so none of us would know the exact details. But Jessica must have gotten the green light to take a trip to NY. Especially with how close it would be to such an important fanmeeting. Ugh too little info

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