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Friday, June 27, 2014

B2ST wins #1 on 'M! Countdown'


Article: B2ST's 'pre-ballad dance-title' tactic works once again... 'Good Luck' #1

Source:
TV Report via Naver

1. [+758, -47] B2ST has great songs aside from their title track. Their pre-release made it up the charts and I hope this album hits daebak.

2. [+654, -45] Not a fan but I bought the album. I've been listening to 'Tonight to Your Side' every day lately ㅎㅎ Their performance for 'Good Luck' is of course great. B2ST jjang jjang, they're one of the rare idols I hope will last as long as Shinhwa.

3. [+514, -28] Congratulations on your M! Countdown win!

4. [+517, -33] I like the new song, work hard on your promotions

5. [+140, -14] Why are people sayin their Melon rank is bad? ㅋㅋ They've managed to stay in the top 5 among strong contenders like Maroon 5 and all of the album's other songs have landed in the charts. I guess people have higher expectations of B2ST than I thought.

6. [+130, -11] Sad that we didn't get to see them receive their trophy on M! Countdown because of their half year wrap up. I hope they receive two trophies next week ㅎㅎ

7. [+129, -10] There are a lot of great songs on their album! The album itself is a complete work. I highly recommend 'Tonight to Your Side' ㅠㅠ Not a fan but I always listen to their songs.

8. [+113, -4] I feel like B2ST as a group will last for a long time unless their company disbands them. They're achieving these results through an album they produced and they're past the point where they're dependent on concepts and songs chosen by their company. They also haven't gotten into any scandals and the members don't run their mouths stupidly, and fans have already proven that their fandom won't be ruined over a dating scandal. They never get hate for their live or singing skills either.

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435 comments:

  1. "They also haven't gotten into any scandals."


    Haha, come over to the international side of fandom and then say that.

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  2. lol on what planet has beast members not said dumb things? I can compile a list of the sexist, racist, etc things they've done & said

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  3. They also haven't gotten into any scandals and the members don't run their mouths stupidly...... Not necessarily; Dongwoon said recently that Kikwang got " Negro Swag " and also after seeing a picture of Doojoon he said he didn't like it cause he looks too dark... SMH. I love B2ST but sometimes Dongwoon pisses me off.

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  4. Beast is also one of the few idol groups with good non title track songs. Cobgratulations!

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  5. Congratulations boys~

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  6. so...what about the other two people you mentioned?

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  7. i always prefer their pre-released track than the actual main track tbh

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  8. Yep they are also not clean, but I'm talking about recently.

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  9. Remember when Yoseob complaned that Spanish water didn't taste as good as Korean water and he couldn't cope?

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  10. not to mention doojoon and his ideal type

    AnAn magazine 07.11

    "I’m a conservative man who likes women who flatter a man. Rather than dark makeup, I like a no-makeup face. Japanese women have the image of a woman who walks a step behind a man without telling a word. In the relationship too, they encourage men. Since I’m a conservative type, I have a good feeling toward such women. My ideal type is a woman like Dakeuchi Yuko, innocent and bright. Rather than dark makeup, I prefer a no-makeup face. And if her no-makeup face is cute, my heart will flutter. I think there are quite many men like this. If I had a girlfriend, I want go with her to England and watch Manchester United’s match together. Even if she isn’t interested in soccer, if she is trying to have fun together or showing a face making an effort, I think I’ll like her even more.”

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  11. I wonder if Knets know about this. Somehow with their hate boner for Japan I don't think they'd be too happy to hear this.

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  12. "and fans have already proven that their fandom won't be ruined over a dating scandal" DAT SHADE lmfao


    But could beauties tell me about the atmosphere when Junhyung was dating Hara ?
    And is it me or sensible people have taken over the comment section regardion Baekyeon ? I saw most the comments on their article were not bitching fans

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  13. I agree with knetz, BEAST's ballad songs are really good, so is By Your Side Tonight
    Congrats boys! You deserve it :)

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  14. for that... he didn't say negro swag. he said 흑인 which literally means black person, and that is the only way to call a coloured person in korean. i'm not saying that he's not wrong. he's wrong for stereotyping. but he definitely did not use any offensive name-calling.

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  15. He doesn't have to like dark skinned, black people or others. As long as he doesn't do or say unnecessary things about them, why do you care? Not like every people on this planet have to like each other.

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  16. exactly. he managed to make a sexist statement AND say that he prefers japanese women lmao lucky for him that was in a japanese magazine

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  17. He doesn't have to like them, and we don't have to like him.

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  18. They should do overseas advancement like Bigbang, Super Junior according they are in the same level.

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  19. Wooooowwww!!!
    Article that have positive comments from K-netz but negative comments from I-netz... usually its the opposite...
    why so bitter International fans???

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  20. It has nothing to do with liking Black. But they need to realise that Kpop is not longer limited to Korea.

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  21. i would say it's Interesting how someone can do blackface and it not be counted as a scandal by like.. i guess, no top-rated netizen comments i've seen on this site, but i've seen some mentions of taeyeon saying that shit about "pretty for a black girl" among other things, because that's an actual microaggression and more subtle than putting half an afro on your head and eating watermelon w your face painted brown. but sure.

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  22. hhh the boys getting no hate by knetz on this news only to have international netizens bash them over past issues. lol.

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  23. they win music bank today too <333
    o yeah i love tonight to ur side too T-T

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  24. Well, Knets only cared about what Taeyeon said once her dating scandal started though. Prior to that they never even mentioned it and didn't care about it at all.

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  25. And this has anything to do with their win how.....

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  26. and what was the junhara thing...not a scandal to them or what, idg them either they just completely forgot everything that had to do with B2ST scandals or they just love them so much they look past everything |:

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  27. number 1 rule for all Beauties in NB : Don't ever scroll the page of any Beast's news to read comments' section.

    byebye...anyway today's music bank Beast got their second win for Good Luck. Congratulation! yay!

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  28. how dare him the water here is delicious lol

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  29. Is it me or are the korean netizens suddenly viewing Beast very positively? I'm surprised because the comments on beast articles recently all seem to be praising and supporting them. Yay beast ˆᴗˆ

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  30. i couldn't find a better word at the point of time when i was typing omg. I meant african americans. Sorry for the confusion :s

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  31. keep rising beast :")

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  32. omfg is he srs...........

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  33. Of course international fans say their not as bad knetizens but will constantly bring up shit for a group they don't like. The hypocrisy is very much alive in this post.

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  34. they definitely did mention it because mostly k-netz and fans were concerned with talking about it and clarifying that, yes, it meant what it meant. I've seen stuff on other sites from translated k net comments and they talked about it before this dating thing.

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  35. Congrats B2ST!~

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  36. Why is this a bad thing to say? *-* I've been to Spain, Turkey and France and its true that there's a difference I mean what's wrong with that? I really don't understand

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  37. here we go again with the hate band-wagon, bring them on i-nets!

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  38. ikr~beast always get hate from i-netz since they debut..im speechless T-T

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  39. It was packed into a post full of other petty complaints about Spain, like the toothpaste wasn't minty enough (LMAO) so it just made me laugh a lot because he sounded so ridiculous.

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  40. nah its always like that. every beast article here has mostly postive comments from k-netz, but usually inetz bring them down because they like to drag beast

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  41. I-fans just loooove hating on Beast.

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  42. korea always liked beast <3
    its the ifans who are pressed lol

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  43. Do you know all international fans or nah? Because I'm pretty sure someone who is fat or black would have some good reasons to not like several idols, and k-netz would have good reasons to hate people for being anti-asian or something. you petty.

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  44. i don't think they considered junhara to be a scandal since they admitted it and broke up quietly

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  45. I knew BEAST is very popular in Korea but not in Inter. but. Why do you guys leave hatefull comment here? just leave it to other article! You ruined my mood. Good.Luck.To.You.

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  46. lol seriously, they have one of the worst track record among kpop groups in terms of that

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  47. TBH they're dumb things to most of us but not to Koreans

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  48. well, i-nets just can't handle beast relatively positive reception in Korea, because oppars have to be condemned for all the shits the pull!

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  49. Ikr, haters gonna hate but BEAST will always see just B2uty/B2stly so let them hate :)

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  50. "a woman who walks a step behind a man without telling a word"...


    Uggh.

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  51. tbh this isn't about beast, but i've noticed a pattern with that. it's always like this, whenever k-netz praise something. i-netz will bash. it's a neverending cycle

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  52. preach darling, preach!

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  53. lol I remember I posted this once here on nb when I said I didn't like Doojoon and a fan kept arguing with me and saying thing like this isn't bad. She don't love herself lmao

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  54. yeah it's really crazy considering on the international side they're considered to have some of the most.

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  55. but... like the comment above about japanese women. lmao how did k-netz not latch onto that?

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  56. I can't believe he's considered a 'boyfriend-dol' in korea :x

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  57. I'm don't even like them I'm just pointing out how ifans are pointing out shit in their past in their win article like knetizens do and are acting like they act better then them. I already said I don't condone what they said but some ifans need to know that all netizens both Korean or international are petty.

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  58. Bald Mr.WorldwideJune 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    of course Knetizens dont care about racist comments made by idols since a lot of Knetizens stereotype and make racist comments.

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  59. HyunseungxJunhyungxJayPJune 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    I'm an I-fan. Lol wut scandals

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  60. I'm so tired of i-nets bashing on Beast whenever they get the chance.


    CONGRATULATIONS BOYS \0/
    Good Luck is such a good song and you deserved your win ♥

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  61. What's with the negativity on NB? I'm not a BEAST fan, but come on... The song was pretty good. Actually listened to it a few times, and I usually don't get the desire to do so.

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  62. should people not be "condemned" for saying and doing awful things? I hope you don't leave a contradictory comment when k-netz slam someone for being gross.

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  63. Suddenly? It's always be like that

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  64. what scandals do they have?

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  65. People who try and bring them down are just jealous that they're doing well and can't handle all the positive comments they're getting, really.

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  66. there were fans who left, but most of the fans were pretty chill. junhyung got even more appreciative of his fans ever since, esp those who stayed by his side, etc etc. there was not much of an outcry tbh

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  67. Is it petty to bring up really fucked up things someone did? Damn, and here I was thinkin petty was not helping someone out because they forgot to text you back.

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  68. Off the top of my head:


    Doojoon pulling a disgusted face when asked to piggyback a chubby fan.
    Doojoon saying he likes Japanese women because "they're quiet and they walk behind their man and don't tell him what to do"
    Kikwang doing blackface and eating watermelon
    Dongwoon saying Kikwang has "black swag"
    Yoseob complaining about the toothpaste in Spain not being minty enough and the water not being as good as Korean water and a Spanish fan who volunteered her time to fan managing while Beast was there coming forth and saying he treated her and her efforts to get him all the things he requested like shit

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  69. Korea loves Beast, actually ^^

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  70. Wow seriously I have already said I'm not a fan of theirs but this is their win article and for some reason the international fans think it's fine to point out all scandal they have done. The song and the album I find to be really good and since some international fans are not going to congratulate you I will, good job B2ST. Honestly I know a lot of groups that have actually done and said worse shit but because their popular among I fans it's pushed under the rug.

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  71. WE CAN NEVER AGREE!!!11

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  72. It took me a long time to forgive Gikwang when he did this.

    http://shikagoland.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/kikwang.png

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  73. you know a LOT of groups who've done things worse than blackface and being disgusting to women? A LOT?

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  74. i agree with the pattern but people felt that way about beast before netizenbuzz even existed.

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  75. This performance always make happy T-T iloveyou beast :(


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEkSnlqZGs

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  76. As expected for every Beast article, we have intel fans forever butthurt that Beast's image and popularity is burnt and dead.
    You guys do know that although what they said were problematic and dumb, the members had no malicious intent attached to it.
    It's also a problem that lies across Korea and not just a few groups.

    CONGRATS ON GOODLUCK2NDWIN
    B2uts love Beast <3

    Really, why do other groups gets to start over and have multiple chances yet Beast is forever hated and condemned for past ignorance?

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  77. And I-netz still dare to act like they're better than K-net, right. Ahh that makes me laugh.

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  78. that netizen comment made me hysterical like

    http://i.minus.com/iDpShXr3Vk16G.gif

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  79. I can actually only think of Big Bang being on par with Beast in the blackface arena. And it is very weird when people say they never did it but isn't Seungri a black dude in one of their mvs?

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  80. I don't see how that's a big deal....I mean American water taste nasty as hell. Actually it taste like Chlorine while Canadians here are drinking straight from the tap. That's more an opinion.

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  81. Are you sure its true? Cause I never read smth like that beside that water thing? I'm a BEAST fanboy since their debut but I really don't know about this so I'm doubting sorry o-O

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  82. congratulation ~~~

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  83. lol no, when people said/did awful things, please condemn them all you like... but please make sure that you do because they truly deserve the condemnation. When it comes to beast, some people just love hating on them... and this is an article that talks about beast's #1 win, of course it is only appropriate to bring out all the supposedly controversial incidents because let's never forget that... people should not appreciate them winning because of their music because obv they're just horrible horrible people...

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  84. Yeah, it's true. I'm surprised you haven't heard of it, it was quite a big deal at the time, at least in international fandom.

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  85. Well have you ever been to a place and hated it? Cause I have. I hated Ohio. Never want to go there again. So it's just his opinion, but I can understand how it will hurts his fans in Spain.

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  86. i love beast but this really irks me "i like when a woman walks behind me and shuts up and puts me first" ok, bye dooj

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  87. it's not that i think they're horrible people, but they have a habit of saying and doing horrible things.

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  88. (off topic)
    doojoon bowing to the female dancer in We Up is the cutest thing ever haha

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  89. Isn't it just a variety show?

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  90. They most likely will slam those Knetz in future, while writing to you now swearing that they wont. :P

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  91. Also (although I'd say this is more the fault of Beast's management): when they had a concert in Spain black fans were demanded to be put in the back so they couldn't be filmed.

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  92. Yes. Since when is it over okay to do blackface and eat a watermelon? I don't expect Will Smith to have yellowface and make chinky eyes on Late Night show.

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  93. How can you even like BEAST? They're every level of disgusting.

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  94. but idk if you're famous you just don't go around saying what places you hate

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  95. oh WOWWWW! Look at the comments section. Pressed I-netz everywhere
    As expected of I-netz LOL

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  96. still doesnt make it alright to make fun of other races.

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  97. I think regarding Beast's music people need to just appreciate it in a vacuum, so without considering the ridiculous things they've said. But that doesn't excuse some of the comments they've made so I think people are basically calling out on the hypocrisy.

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  98. usually i could write it off as them not knowing what it means to do blackface (like that nick fury cosplay someone did) but he had a watermelon and everything, so its not like he was unaware of the implications of it, and doesn't know he's mocking another race.

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  99. They are rivaling Suju in terms of that.

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  100. well~since they will get hate by i-netz anyway~why not posting their video \(^-^)/

    one of my fav <3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Af7Nw_mYkE

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  101. and he didn't actually do it they done it to him without him known till later on ~ kiki worship african amarican he didn't mean any harm but whatever hate him if u want lol

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  102. uh gurl~u dun know how he fanboying usher and chris brown at his twitter~this reality show is stupid

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  103. He didn't say he hated Spain did he? He just said a couple of things he didn't like. I dunno I have to see how he said it, maybe it was in a joking matter and people are taking it out of context.

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  104. Like someonse stated blow, the 'Negro' thing was mistranslated. He literally said 'black person' and didn't use any offensive term. Also the MC was the one that said Doojoon looked too dark in the picture, Dongwoon actually never stated his opinion.
    And Dongwoon is a sweetheart.

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  105. I'm laughing at the hypocrisy in the comment section.
    A lot of comments go straight under the 'Same Old' label.

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  106. at least BEAST don't do drugs or killed someone like BIG BANG.

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  107. Because we actually notice the racist and sexist things they've said/done.

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  108. it must be hard for them to accept beast success so they're trying to bring them down everytime haha

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  109. look at i-net hating comments ! hey how many times do you repeat that thing in every Beast's article? im too boring ! what elseee ?

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  110. um no ones saying they're horrible people tho its just that they've done a lot of problematic stuff that they deserve to be called out for

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  111. Gtf out please.

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  112. I'm not a Big Bang fan, so I don't know what you're trying to achieve with this comment.

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  113. same old inetz xD

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  114. is it? I have heard several people say that.

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  115. more then ever before people on NB are trowing around the word hater to anything negative it seems impossible to hold a discussion anymore.. getting tired of that.

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  116. The thing is, this is such a complicated issue because Korea is a homogenous country with barely any black people. They never experienced slavery, or the Civil Rights Movement etc. My parents who are from South America (also a homogenous country) didn't understand what was so bad about it either (blackface, I mean), until I took the time and explained it to them.


    Even if its been a few years since the incident, I'm sure if Koreans understand how offensive this is to people with dark skin. (I know people like Tasha and Tiger JK started a movement for it).


    And I don't think we can 100% blame Kikwang when he's simply following a script and has never lived outside of Korea. This is a much larger, societal or cultural issue.


    But if there's anyone to blame in this particular situation, it's the MBC scriptwriters or the program itself.

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  117. "It's also a problem that lies across Korea and not just a few groups" exactly, that's why everyone gets called out for everything they do/say. There's a lot of haters for EXO/Super Junior/etc. because they've said and done stupid things, and they get called out on it too. It's not just Beast, so...

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  118. I read the post and lol he just said that the HOTEL'S toothpaste wasn't good, how is it considered bad? Even in my own countries (France and Turkey) I sometimes find a hotel's service not good enough or really bad, so is it racist and bad? I think you just misunderstood things or look from a really different pov.

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  119. My favorite title track since soom tbh congrats again :)

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  120. That's why I said it took me a while to forgive him.

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  121. seriously, I don't even want to argue anymore... let people believe what they believe. I have come to understand that trying to argue otherwise is a waste of energy.... :/

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  122. Congratulation!!!!!! WOW Im just so waiting for this for all these days. Finally. Thanks God They finally won. Keep winning babe :3

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  123. yeah one of the reason why lots of old 'commenter' leave

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  124. sadly a lot of Asian guys have this mindset, they love to step in front of women and lead them.
    I've watched a lot of Asian variety shows especially those from Taiwan and China that discuss about men-women relationship. Most of the male guest admit that they prefer that kind of women, even on bed they hardly can accept women to take the control or lead them.

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  125. LOOOL please. I didn't say he's racist, this is just ignorance at it's finest.

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  126. I guess they're only pointing out the things they did/said because of the last comment that said "They also haven't gotten into any scandals and the members don't run their mouths stupidly" which is obviously wrong lmao

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  127. ikr~if they already set their mind to hate~everything they do will looks bad on them~let them be

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  128. Doojoon pulls that "disgusted face" (where he sticks out his tongue) on anything though, it's a habit of his. I don't think he felt "disgusted" by it, he was making that face because he was going to piggyback someone who was much heavier than him (it's only natural).

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  129. that's like saying "i'm not racist i have black friends" he can be offensive towards black people without hating them.

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  130. I have seen lots of Korean doing this black face and I really didn't think it is a big deal in Korea. *I'm sorry if I'm wrong*. And I think varieties are scripted most of the time also? Maybe the producer thought that was fun and told him to do that? And I agree, making fun of other races isn't right, but maybe Koreans think about it in a different way from us?

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  131. That's fine. Now you know. It's never okay to imitate another race and make fun of it.

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  132. Yep it is a lie people there confirmed that there was no such thing.

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  133. wow this comment section is actually ....... a mess :/ anw, congrats for beast on their winning! love their new songs, these guys totally deserve it!

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  134. fan like you have no class and insecure because you feel the need to drag other group's down to defend for your group.

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  135. Actually the one who leave a negative comment here is a peoples with full of jealousy because B2ST is better than their idols. I-netizen also love B2ST but some peoples without brain and full of jealousy were write a stupid things again and again. Sometimes its funny to see how hard they try to write a stupid things but B2ST get more and more LOVE. So, to antis, Dont waste your time here. Poor your mom and dad have child like you. If you want, Please GO TO HELL now ^___^ peace. #B2ST3rdWin #GoodLuck2ndWin

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  136. When have K-netz ever cared about the Japanese?

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  137. Maybe I see the world differently.
    Maybe It's because I don't nitpick mistakes and double meanings from everyone.
    Maybe I'm a shame to the female population for not loving myself but how is this bad.
    Doojoon is a traditional guy, in Korea as it is in many SE Asian cultures, women has been long associated with home.
    They take care of the family etc.
    What Doojoon finds attractive in women is his own damn opinion, let's crucify him (and the rest of beast why not? I'm sure you'll enjoy the show) for being traditional.
    He likes for the most part, a person that quietly supports you from behind, not necessarily constantly showing off.
    I like that about guys too, do I deserve to be buried 9000ft right now?
    Haters are constantly nitpicking reasons to hate on Beast because they're easy to hate.
    B2uties isn't a loud fandom internationally and no matter how we say it, we're just delusional and stupid for supporting and willingly love guys that have been culturally ignorant.
    We're a fandom that can learn to forgive our idols despite their mistakes because we see the guys beyond skin deep.
    If you can't forgive people and still love them for who they are after the mistakes, how do you expect people to love you?

    I'm ignorant too actually, so I don't mind if you hate me for it because I'm open to learning anytime but hating on Beast for their own ideal types, relationships, how they see the world etc.?

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  138. speaking of their management http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/9501074.html

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  139. http://25.media.tumblr.com/8f7f93e2ef428df9a7dcfaadfc4c328c/tumblr_munprnNW7x1r00543o5_250.gif


    Don't talk about what you don't know.

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  140. he and hyunseung are the funniest when they're fanboying lolol

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  141. Well in the eyes of korea it's right. Beast have a clean image there

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  142. So great boys !!! You never dissapoint me with your fabulous songs and hard working image~~~~ Beast Jang. im really happy right now for you <3. So Beast !!!

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  143. I respect your opinion but have any of you ever considered the context behind this?


    I actually watched this show "Hot Brothers" and the segment where this came up was when KiKwang and another MC were put against each other to see who would have the higher heartbeat when put into awkward situations. The person with the lower heartbeat "won" the match. KiKwang was basically an avatar and the PDs/members of the other team made him do things he didn't want to do to raise his heartbeat. The avatar game was a big part of this show. DooJoon even made a cameo and made fun of KiKwang to mess with him more.


    I'm not saying what he did was right but he didn't do it with malicious intention. He had only debuted a year ago and was the maknae of a cast made up of veteran MCs and singers. Do you think he would have had ANY say in what he wanted to do?

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  144. what a stupid comment. you can still be racist even if you're a "fanboy" of black celebrities. sit down.

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  145. B2st is a good group, congrats on your win guys! But just think before you speak sometimes.

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  146. ok my bad, but like i said if it was true i would have blamed their management not them.

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  147. A person can make racist comments and may not be a racist person at the same time.

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  148. lol then he should control his expressions, he's an idol.

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  149. Congrats BEAST! a much deserved win! thank you for giving fans an album we're proud of! as always, you boys deliver! <3 #proudb2uty

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  150. It's like how koreans always like and praise Jacky Chan/Bruce Lee but still making racists comments on Chinese.

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  151. I think we make to many excuses for them sometimes. If they'd had absolutely zero exposure to outside cultures I agree. But they travel, they are passed the point of not knowing any better. Some of their choreographers are black and most of them listen to music and imitate forms of dance they started in the black community. If they cared enough emulate the artist portions of a group of people, they should care enough to know at least some of the main things that may be offensive. It's not like it was the first time this has happened.

    The only thing I can say is that I do know that it wasn't his idea. I DO think he was just following along with a script. I just wish he was strong in his own thoughts and beliefs to come up with a creative alternative that wasn't so offensive.

    ..and lets not get started on the "well they do it so why can't we" nonsense. If someone made a habit out of running people over in the street would you want to do that to? Wrong is wrong. Using the excuse that you thought it was ok because someone else did it is a bit sorry.

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  152. Really? Do those groups have intel fans ready to pounce on the comment sections of their articles the way Beast does?
    No. People here literally bring the same old things up to justify their hate. It's getting old and tiring.

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  153. I'm actually really surprised at all the negativity ..

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  154. Interesting. So I guess they would be so cool with other cultures (in particular Japanese?) making fun of them in the most vile, racist way possible? I just don't understand why this is so hard to understand. If you don't want it done to you (general you), then why do it to someone else? I am not angry at you (don't misunderstand), it's just this hits home.

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  155. If you don't like them that's fine, but it's up to each fan to decide what they're comfortable with. Please stop bashing others for liking sonething you don't like

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  156. Oh really i've just read that is their second win with "good luck" WOW. really so great !! so good to know that ~ Fans please keep supporting for them ~~

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  157. to the haters~light will go on again lols

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrSxOon9GA

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  158. girl... can't you see how sexist his ideal type is? he literally wants a woman who will be inferior to him. it's like he lives in the 1950s. as a woman i will dislike this about him. if his response started from the sentence "my ideal type is a woman like dakeuchi yuko" nobody would have cared.

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  159. Jenizz | pinkcrownJune 27, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Their album is really good. I actually wanted another solo by Junhyung.. haha I'm not a fan and I really LOVED Junhyungs solo but.. their album is great. :3 Congrats. ^^

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  160. Kevin Horvejkul KwokJune 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    I don't see anyone hating on Beast here... They are just correcting K-Netizen number 8. I hope B2uty not misunderstood them as haters...


    BEAST deserve win with this song...
    Congrats!

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  161. but what's a "black person's swag"? What does this mean? Not all black people are into hip hop or dancing.

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  162. ...I think it's a bit much to say he worships African American people. What do you mean "He didn't actually do it, they done it to him"..? We have eyes... He knew what he was doing. He's just not the type I guess to say no to producers. Some entertainers are strong enough in their convictions to stand up for what think is right or wrong even on variety shows. Kikwang is not one of those people. It doesn't make him racist, it just means he needs to get a bit of a backbone.

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  163. why are i-fans so bitter against beast? lol like they always have to bring up all the bad things they did like they never did something good

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  164. Out of curiosity what about the other two? Hyunseung and Junhyung?

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  165. i cant xD~remember when hyunseung or kikwang ask chris brown to follow him xDDDD twitter chingu xD

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  166. This tbh. He even has the lips and everything. I understand if someone has slightly darker make up or they do a bad black person cosplay bc it's harder to understand the implications of those things but this script was solely made to mock black people. There is no other intentions or misundersrandings. Makes me sick and idc if this is scripted or if koreans are ignorant. This shit HURTS people bc it impacts the way black ppl are treated in korea. If no one is held accountable then how the fuck are people going to learn? I rlly doubt someone held a gun to his head and make him do this.

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  167. yo, dude. thought I'm alone aside from the hordes of female fans they have. haha

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  168. Beast and their music is just so good to be hated by " Music Lovers ". BEAST JANG <3

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  169. or maybe the person who said ifans are not as bad as knetz and person who constantly bring up shit for a group they dont like are two different people?

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  170. Congrats Beast! As expected! I love their pre-ballad tradition and they've definitely surpassed idol status to me. So proud of them :) Forever a B2UTY!

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  171. They aren't scandals in korea. Its not like that's an inetz comment lol

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  172. I read it all! Damn right.

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  173. Thanks for the refresher. I think some fans here needed it.

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  174. But there were fans who were actually there who made the complaints as well. So who to believe?

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  175. How so many i-fans claim that they're better than k-netz is beyond me. There are always complaints on this site about how k-netz don't let anything go yet here we have the same situation.


    Congratulations to Beast, especially Junhyung. Their hard work on this album paid off. I thought it was much more cohesive than last year's album and they won no. 1 for the third time in a row with a pre-released song.

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  176. amaya aguero monzonJune 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    2. [+654, -45] Not a fan but I bought the album. I've been listening to 'Tonight to Your Side' every day lately ㅎㅎ Their performance for 'Good Luck' is of course great. B2ST jjang jjang, they're one of the rare idols I hope will last as long as Shinhwa.

    Duuude if you bought the album and are listening to it everyday then you are a fan !!! Being a fan is not all about being crazy over them if you enjoy their music enough to buy their album then you are a fan !

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  177. oh god. the top comment is about the freaking "racist" beast comments again.
    this literally pisses me off as a korean being an international fan. the fact that kikwang's variety show was ever a "scandal" in the international area seems a little off. it was back in 2010 when hallyu was just starting. it wasn't big but it wasn't small either.


    of course, yes, it might have offended a lot of different people around the world but it was a show (yes it doesn't make a right because it's a show) but koreans have a saying for variety shows or any other shows that may be scripted along the way. "a variety is a variety, let's not get offended"


    once again, yes it doesn't make a right.


    but kikwang was just a rookie back then where he was getting beast's name out. if he were to say, no i can't do it. i can't do this in front of the camera. what would have the staffs think about him and beast? he has to deal with all situations given to him. of course, the fact that he was "blackfaced" and eating a watermelon doesn't say anything about HIM being racist. he was given a dark foundation by the staff and actors playing in the script and was given a watermelon cf scenerio. what would you have done as a rookie idol?


    as for doojoon's accident, i am seriously hurt by the fans. the fact that YOU guys are pointing out the fact she isn't on the skinny side is where it's all wrong. he didn't point out anything and if you were a beast fan you would know doojoon sticks his tongue out in every single situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME. it's a habit. and she said HE couldn't carry her and he ASKED if she was sure. THERE WAS NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS GOING AROUND.


    and last of all, the fact that it is a show that was edited severely, you never know what happened in the actual time. they could have talked a few times before sending her back to the crowd asking if she was okay, and that he was sorry. do you think the editors would put that on there when they have limited time space in their show? (it's a segment within a entertainment news show)


    FOR DONGWOON. THIS IS THE DUMBEST THING EVER. I DON'T KNOW WHO POINTED IT OUT (i'm guessing omona) HE DIDN'T SAY BLACK SWAG. it's just a better translation form even the translator's note was made. it should have been. african american swag (i won't say african just because they're talking about the african american singers styles ) but black swag sounds a lot better in my point on view.


    dongwoon NEVER EVER said that doojoon looked too dark and that was the reason why he didn't look so good in his picture. HE CLEARLY SAID, that picture is missing something, it could have been a better picture. the MC was the one who said, he looks like african american a little in this picture right?


    DONGWOON DIDN'T SAY OR DO ANYTHING OFFENDING ON THAT SHOW.


    there is a difference between the word black and african american / african. and they will never call the race BLACK in korean. (it's kkam doong ee in korean for the racist term for african people. and heuk in for a mannered term )


    i wish people would do more research on the "scandals" before typing out their own opinion on it. beast tries hard to equally give fans the same love.


    and i'm a fan. if you want to use that as an excuse for my reasons, go ahead. my mind won't change about how dumb this scandal is for the international fans. especially when so many people hate on beast and wants a reason to join the hating wagon.

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  178. maybe they want to keep the album as personal collections ahaha but really kpop bands have the best design album~they r so pretty n cheap too if u buy it at Korea lols

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  179. He should marry his masturbation hand then. The most quiet, natural and supportive partner u can have. ;)

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  180. So beast! Good luck for tomorrow too beast kids

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  181. ifans can't be better. if they're not as worse, they're worst as fans. they are more judgemental when it comes to different issues that are related to korea. ifans never try to understand kfans/knets comments. they just straight out. we don't look at it that way here. so that's stupid and mean.

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  182. Yeah, true, but that's exactly why it's usually i-fans that always say something about them.

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  183. That's the problem though, he probably didn't have his own thoughts or beliefs on the matter at the time.

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  184. it clearly says they have the image. it doesn't say they are.

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  185. Honestly if he doesn't like a whole group composed of billions of people based on their skin colour alone idk how to break it to you but he's racist and not a decent person at all. The better question is why would u like him?

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  186. I don't really follow Beast that well, so I can't say how often they get attacked in the comment section. From the few Beast articles I've seen recently, I think this is the only one I've seen i-fans going hard on them, and I think it's mainly because the last comment said "They also haven't gotten into any scandals and the members don't run their mouths stupidly" People will bring up the same old things for EVERY group though. Even with k-fans. I used to really follow Super Junior, and no one seems to forget the things they've said/done regardless of how long ago it was.

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  187. how did u comment as guest?lols sorry for asking, im just curious >.<

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