This has been all over several boards. It's an account of someone who was at the Girl's Day showcase explaining why the girls jumped into the pool because they were getting a lot of criticism for it (people calling them desperate, sl*tty, etc).
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"I'm writing this up because I don't think it's right that they're getting all this hate over jumping into the pool, especially people saying that they're like Japanese idols... I went to the showcase because a friend landed tickets and there were a lot more journalists than fans there. It was only the first two rows that had fans.
It was super hot the day of the showcase. Fans were in the water and the journalists were under shade but Girl's Day performed right under the sun and lighting equipment for eight straight songs. By the second song, Sojin practically fainted back stage and Minah could barely stand on her own.
After their stages, the journalists asked questions and one of them asked what they would promise their fans if they won #1. The host asked the girls to do their promise early and do it by jumping into the water ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ Ridiculous. The girls obviously looked disstressed and Minah kept looking at the staff section, looking like she was asking her CEO what they should do. The girls were drenched in sweat and it was obvious that they just wanted to finish up and go home early but the CEO and the host forced the girls to go ahead with the promise anyway.
The girls looked shocked but they had to do it anyway. I felt really bad for them when Minah turned to the crowd and asked, 'Everyone, we'll really win #1 if we jump into the water, right?' ã…‹ã…‹...
They all went to the back of the stage to take off their heels and their outer stage outfits... Minah then went first and asked people to love Girl's Day and jumped in followed by the rest of the girls.
Fans of course swarmed in and started splashing them with water and pushing in to try to shake their hands. The girls were really nice about it and even tried wading towards their fans to shake their hands... but their make up was getting all smudged.
I guess the problem was that once they were done greeting their fans, the girls could not walk at all... They tried to get out of the pool but it was obvious they had no strength left in their bodies. Minah was practically crawling out of the water because her legs had no strength and Sojin had to be supported by her manager... Meanwhile fans and journalists were taking pictures of this, of course.
Judging by the pictures from the showcase alone, I can see why people would think they were desperate or trying to do erotic things to get attention but let me tell you that it wasn't like that at all..."
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I don't like the outfits in the video, and the dance is a little over the top but I still like girl's day and I don't see anything erotic by jumping into a pool? I do it almost everyday.. (if it's not raining... damn you sweden)
ReplyDeleteWow. Well shit. How awkward and bad for Girls' Day. And it seems like there'll only be more shit to come.
ReplyDeleteYou can see this part in the video of the showcase. They're trying really hard, but only have so much strength. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8-Smd9GvvY
ReplyDeleteIt probably would've been better if they had put on t-shirts or something backstage as extra cover, maybe then netizens would've been more supportive of them.
poor girls, and till I dont think they can win #1, the agency is at fault really
ReplyDeleteSo basically...Girls Day is being forced by their boss to jump into the pool. Not surprising. Pretty sure lots of female idols (despite the fact I hate some of their sexy outfits and find them pretty demeaning or gross) just wear what they're told to wear.
ReplyDeleteThe staff and CEO don't have any regard for the girls' honour....
ReplyDeleteRegardless of their contracts and the company needs to make money off them, that's not how you treat young women. Disgusting.
Feel really bad for all the girl groups getting saddled with this sexy trend shit these days.
What is "erotic" or "slutty" about jumping in a pool? Have people lost their minds?
ReplyDeletehow dehumanizing! so i feel disgusted!
ReplyDeleteAKB48 > kpop
ReplyDeleteThat's honestly so horrible. You can't treat humans like robots.
ReplyDeletei watched the video, they didn't look that forced like the fan account is making it out to be. ia they are being used as tools by the company and they probably wouldve rather not jump in the pool, but nonetheless, i feel there's a level of desperateness from the girls to be a top group.
ReplyDeletePoor Girls, I knew Dream Tea was pushing them more wit their sudden increase in popularity & interest but this is too much.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the big deal they just jumped in a pool like how is that ''slutty''?
ReplyDeleteYeah seems like, disgusting, I feel sorry for them, they has been around long enough and don't think that this is the path to reach the top, because (despite what allkpop says) this isn't a top group at all, the saddest thing is that they have talent
ReplyDeleteThe sad moment when Brownie is treated more like human than idols
ReplyDeletetheir CEO is the one who is desperate..the girls seem to lack stamina but I guess the soaking clothing must have weighted them down. I wonder how much time GsD will bear doing this kind of stuff (cos they are ordered to) before exploding and complaining.
ReplyDeleteCEO and songwriters in the KPOP industry show no respect to female idols, so the girls end up singing stupid provocative song where they ask to sleep with the guy and are criticized for all that. It's disgusting. (The girls agree too, though. So they can be blamed too PARTLY) I'm still waiting for a songwriter to write a decent feminist korean song.
i would like to see sojin crawling out of a swimming pool on all fours, drenched in water, with her tits jiggling about
ReplyDeleteagree, I think a desperation smell comes out off them, and acts as a repellent for my.
ReplyDeleteGood lord, I feel so bad for them...poor girls..
ReplyDeleteNetizens once again are just eager to find a reason to call these hardworking girls slutty. What's wrong in jumping into a pool fully clothed? Nothing. Is not like they were on bikinis or performing sexual acts in the pool.
ReplyDeleteLet's all respect Girl's Day and understand that sometimes kpop idols are forced into things they don't even want to do. Stop with this nonsensical mysoginism.
> that's not how you treat young women
ReplyDeleteThe CEO is a middle aged male who is richer than them and their employer. They should do what they're told.
Honor? What it has to do with honor? They just jumped on a freaking pool! They haven't lost their honor over this
ReplyDeleteYou can hear from the beginning that they're really tired out. Usually Minah and Sojin are 100% live, but Minah lipsynced 75% of her lines and just did the adlibs, and even then her voice broke a few times. When every single one of their songs has at least one huge adlib for her, singing eight in a row isn't going to work.
ReplyDeleteThey can always quit. No one is making them wear that stuff. They chose that job and with it comes certain responsibilities. Do it or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteExactly.
ReplyDeleteAww I feel so sorry for them :( I hope it's worth all this ^^
ReplyDeleteYou must be new here
ReplyDeleteIt's probably not just that, just this comeback and its concept altogether that people are calling slutty.
ReplyDeleteI'm writing this up because I don't think it's right that they're
ReplyDeletegetting all this hate over jumping into the pool, especially people
saying that they're like Japanese idols
How about the only idols that pull this kind of crap is akb. Don't generalize japanese idols that way and also with the concepts that korean girl groups have done as of late *coughpoledancingcough* I think they've been looking a lot worst.
Here's a vid of the pool jumping part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QJ5WrXfbzQ
ReplyDeleteIf they quit, what are they going to do after that?
ReplyDeleteAll the training they've went through would be for naught (so they've wasted their investment).
Plus, I bet most of them didn't concentrate on their studies (as they were probably training to be idols), which would make it A LOT harder for them to try and enter a good university and get a good degree and end up with a job.
Besides, they did follow their "responsibility" to the company by wearing the outfits.
oh my god, as if the group weren't already getting so much hate from the Tony/Hyeri shit going on. I'm not really supportive of all the media play they're doing either, but to get such nonsensical hate from this showcase on top of what they're already shouldering from netizens on a regular basis??? ugh. I just want to hug all of the girls so much :(
ReplyDeletedude, I love sexy!Sojin as much as the next person, but there's a time and place for this kind of thing. this article is not it.
ReplyDelete^This. The new Girls Day concept and outfits have been deemed inappropriate by K-netz so when they jumped into the pool it was supposedly erotic and slutty as well.
ReplyDeleteI think you are looking for asianjunkie. This comment is right up their alley. lol
ReplyDeletei have no idea..personally i think the song is about a horny ass girl who needs it bad but some people are calling it rape-y
ReplyDeletetheir dramas are nice thou
ReplyDeleteSome of them! They had my respect with Bridal Mask, that was a piece of art! But I don't trust a lot on their news e gossip columns.
ReplyDeleteschool 2013 was absolute perfection
ReplyDeletesome other ones were pretty good too, but yea they can be sketchy at times
Unless they pay KBS
ReplyDeleteKbs logic: offer me money/girls or I will find ways to not let you perform on my show.
ReplyDeleteThey has a problem with the specific outfit of the showcase, they're not showing their camel toe anymore lol and they WANT sex, not that they want to we rapped. Logic not found here, stop comparing
ReplyDeleteI didn't watch Scholl 2013 because I am tired of the storylines, its always so predictable. This days I'm up to I Hear your voice, Shark, and Heqrtless city.
ReplyDeleteTbh netizens are too quick to judge and make criticisms. We should wait till the actual song comes out. I heard the song is actually about a girl telling the guy to stop being that same lowly man netizen are criticizing.
ReplyDeleteI agree that a more appropriate title would be safer, but i's really unfair to take the lyrics out of context!
But I heard the song is actually about the girl telling the guy to stop being that type of wolf-whistling, low-life cheater who hangs around bars. The banned lyrics were "get your ass back home." I don't know if it will be female-empowerment but saying the title is because Brave Brothers is a man is just jumping to conclusions. The real sexualizing is going on with Girl's Day, Sistar, dal shabet...4minute may have Hyuna but here they're wearing jeans and pencil skirts for pete's sake!
ReplyDelete-__- http://www.asianjunkie.com/2013/06/music-video-lessons-dal-shabets-be-ambitious-is-about-getting-mad-diq-is-sort-of-r
ReplyDeleteBanned for that? How stupid.
ReplyDeleteTake a closer look to the lyrics. They question their boyfriend's masculinity, stating, "Why are you looking at my eyes and not my legs?" At another point, the song also says, "When you're drunk, you just go home," and it says something about the guy not taking advantage of her and taking their relationship to the next level. The song then states, "Other men look at me, so why don't you? Are you even a man?" (Or something akin to that)
ReplyDeleteBasically, these other guys are willing to have sex with me but you're not, what's wrong with you?
The song can be viewed as support for rape culture, further supporting the idea that a woman/girl/etc who wears revealing clothing wants to engage in intimate/sexual behavior and that she's 'asking' for it, even if she does not give verbal consent.
sky lyric was stupid
ReplyDeleteSome truth in it actually
ReplyDeletethey ban the tittle song as inappropriate but not the panties fashion???......hmmmmmm
ReplyDeleteI know, right?
ReplyDelete>.< School 2013 was sooo good though >.< ermagahd...
ReplyDeleteAs I said its a problem with most girl groups now, not just specifically this song but kpop in general. In fact I did not mention this song title or the lyrics at all since I have not read them and can not judge them specifically, but the issue highlighted by the netizen (i.e men selling female idols and not music or ability) is very much a growing reality of kpop.
ReplyDeleteTeehee KBS...you ban them for this but I shall never forget that you let this air :'''3 yeah haha listen to my words the fucking dick is in yo pussssaaayyyy
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1k_BO5KUBUE
-cries- hahaha aiggooo eun ji won really used to troll the koreans who never knew english that much at that time
one more thing..
JUST MAKE DAT TOOTSIE ROLL!
Wow, I don't understand the song title, but when I look at their outfit, I think it's a bit okay, not showing so much skin, so why was they're banned? (anyway the outfit makes them looks even more skinny for me). But then, I read the explanation. Well okay then....
ReplyDeleteAnyway I think I'm gonna like this comment :
[+32, -2] Why would a female group use the term "how's the water" themselves? Even though Brave Brothers is the one that composed the song, the phrase itself is used by lowly men who sexualize women and view them as products worth nothing more than for their looks. Why would women ever want to use a phrase like that as their title?
I agree with you. I think the others are looking WAY too deep into the meaning.
ReplyDeleteI know a few sasaengs, (not giving out their info) and that does not represent the majority. Those that do partake in that behavior are ostracized by the others and often operate in small clusters. A good portion of sasaengs are college students; since high school is very hectic and younger fans (middle school age) don't have the ability to move as freely as their older counterparts.
ReplyDeleteFinally, those that talk about their activities, esp those that allow themselves to be interviewed, are ostracized as well. Sasaengs, based on the fandom, have a very strict 'code of conduct' which each of them adhere to or they will face the consequences.
but they were fishing in the teaser, thus "how's the water down there" LOL
ReplyDeleteDouble standards can be a bitch all the time.
ReplyDeleteThanks. Imma watch that now.
ReplyDeletePoor idols :/
ReplyDeleteomg I had no idea o____o
ReplyDeleteowned.
ReplyDeletecan't you form your own opinion? I disagree with article
ReplyDeleteOh thank you for the infos, I have watched documentaries and many of the saesang interviewed were underaged and skipped school. They did prostitution because, being young they did not have much pocket money.
ReplyDeleteIts them staying in little groups that made it seem like a prostitution ring.
I see there are many kinds of saesang fans, your comment was really informative thx :)
I know o___o The message is pretty clear imo
ReplyDeletenope.
ReplyDeleteExactly. If you cant encourage a guy, it cant be rape...
ReplyDelete"supporting the idea that a woman/girl/etc who wears revealing clothing wants to engage in intimate/sexual behavior and that she's 'asking' for it" she is asking for it, the guy is just to dense to realize it!!!!
ReplyDeletei was trying not to be crude but the song is about a girl who wants sex but the boyfriend doesn't pay attention to her. she's wearing short shorts for HER boyfriend, people in relationships wear revealing clothes for each other (lingerie) and are touchy when they want sex
if other people notice im wearing short shorts i'd be pretty damn pissed if my boyfriend was the only one not to notice or if he ignores me being touchy -___-
btw having to verbally tell a boyfriend that i agree to have sex with him every time kinda kills the mood...
wuttt
ReplyDeleteschool 2013 isnt predictable... :( thats why ppl like it
but man i need to watch shark soon...
Wheni found out the meaning behind the title i automatically thought it was about guys degrating women.
ReplyDeleteBEG aren't an idol group. They were created by Jea, not by some company.
ReplyDeletethat was in reply to Guest, not to you...
ReplyDeleteSome k-netizens don't care, they don't even read the lyrics or listen to the song lol, they just bash without knowing, and i-netizens are no different, some of them form their opinion on screenshots and netizens' comments without looking into even small details lol, stupid people are everywhere on the interten, but they're not the nation's opinion, right now 4minute's song is winning everywhere and the song is good imo.
ReplyDelete" 10. [+9, -2] What is wrong with their title?"
ReplyDeleteEMM
Sorry for the late reply.
ReplyDeleteThus, this situation makes context important. Maybe the guy isn't dense, but he simply doesn't want to engage in sexual activity and pushing him for or berating him for his lack of interest is pressuring him -- which may be viewed as verbal assault.
Obviously, if both parties are willing to have sex - by kissing, touching, etc -- then yes, no verbal consent is needed since it is supported by both, /willing/ parties. This song, however, states that the girl is simply going to wait around, frustrated until her boyfriend takes advantage of her, instead of taking charge of the situation and taking the first step since it isn't 'lady-like'.
The main problem lies in the lyrics, which supports rape culture/the view that women/men/etc are asking for sex based on how they dress -- legitimizing rape and sexual assault. Even though this song is directed at this girl's boyfriend, the public will listen to it and subconsciously believe that yes, a girl/boy wearing revealing clothing is promiscuous and is openly inviting others to partake in sexual activities with him/her.
And that is why this song encourages rape - including rape between couples, married or not. If a partner hesitates, says 'no', 'I'm not in the mood,' or 'stop', and the other party continues, this is rape. It serves as justification - 's/he's my girl/boy-friend, it's okay. they're are SUPPOSED to have sex with me." or, 's/he is showing off, I bet s/he wants to get laid."