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Thursday, May 16, 2013

[Instiz] Nine Muses' Sera hit by CEO?


Instiz: Nine Muses Sera getting hit

"The man in the gif seems to be her CEO... If he's willing to treat her like this on broadcast, imagine how he's like once the cameras are off?"

"Nine Muses CEO is known for hitting them and swearing at them at the smallest of mistakes."

"I remember those photos where he made them all line up in shorts and started criticizing them as if he were grading mannequins..."

"Yeah, I think their CEO's a bit abusive. I saw a clip where he was lightly slapping their legs once."

"He's famous for being a former gang member."

"With the way she's smiling, it looks like this happens often and she's just used to it now."

"His name's Shin Joo Hak and he's a former gang member, yup."

"Ugh, this upsets me so much.. Sera, you don't deserve that. Nine Muses, ZE:A, none of you do."

"With the way she closes her eyes right as he raises his hand makes it seem like he hits her often.. ㅠㅠ This is shocking."

"In the Star Empire documentary, it's not only the CEO.. The other staff members are all intimidating, too."

"I think he needs to relearn what it means to be a CEO... Being a CEO doesn't mean abusing your power like this."

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271 comments:

  1. You can't accuse the man of abusing her by one gif ? maybe it was playful hit? idk

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  2. Who does he think he is -___- ?

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  3. I certainly hope that he's not abusive O_o

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  4. Get your ratchet hand away from the beauty!

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  5. it doesn't look playful tho. even on the side view he doesn't look like he's smiling and she doesn't look happy either...

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  6. LOL I know, but if this is true it would be really so so bad for them to bear it.

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  7. This is from th 9muse documentary released a couple of years back.

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  8. I am sad for 9Muses.. they went lot of hardship but still they are underrated and under-appreciated. I hope 9Muses would be popular..



    By the way, i dislike abusive people. Hope they would change their manager

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  9. It looks playful, I don't know.

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  10. playful?! i could tell he looked angry though its only showing his side profile. plus she doesnt look like shes having fun after being hit.

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  11. i don't know the situation but this looks bad, hopefully he was playing.

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  12. From the side he looks serious though.

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  13. t-ara scandal was because of a gif

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  14. idk when in any case slapping a girl like that is playful.

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  15. thats what i thought it was at first, but the comments are shocking

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  16. Does anyone know if the Full version of that Nine Muses documentary is released anywhere? I watched the 50 Minutes one and I thought their CEO and staff members were pretty harsh on them :/

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  17. It was because of the DETERMINATION tweets.

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  18. In the other photo, he's poking a member with a drumstick wtf?

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  19. That documentary felt so scripted to me though, also that is so old. I'm pretty sure every company CEO keeps a strict hand over their idols, they pretty much prepare them for the hardships and cruelty that are part of being an idol (have you seen how aggressive netizens get?). Star Empire has no shame in making their company look like a hellhole (ZE:A's predebut show was pretty much just as cruel). But at least they don't show a rose-colored view of the trainee life.

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  20. that gif is from the IDOL (BBC documentary) and if you watch the documentary it's not even a playful hit. He was angry that time

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  21. Also, he looks like he's shouting
    definitely aggresive behaviour

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  22. seriously,the way sera smiles just showed how she's used to it already.

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  23. no one deserve to threat like this!!

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  24. i think people should stop making assumptions. nobody knows what the situation was that led to that. seriously netizens, so because a person has a bad past makes them a bad person. i don't think you should go around living life like that. i'm just saying.

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  25. then you should watch the whole video and judge by yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8

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  26. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    Their documentary. Its sad to see the girls being mistreated by their ceo and other staff. Everyone should watch this. A refreshing insight to kpop.

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  27. For me it looks playful because of her reaction. But then again,we can't see the CEO's face whether he's being serious or not.

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  28. Here we go again, some people making baseless assumption justifying it only from one gif. Yeap.

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  29. you guys that are saying it looks playful clearly havent watched their documentary...:/

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  30. Weren't their rumors of sm hitting dbsk and super junior before well more specifically Changmin? I feel as if all this is pretty common.

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  31. Wow that's scary

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  32. if you watch their office reality show, you'll know how the ceo & managers treat their employees. they are harsh, but they are just like parents raising their kids strictly. i don't think that's abusing.

    and if you are a fan of ze:a & jewelry, you'll know how much the member looove their managers & ceo. they are actually quite friendly with the artists. not sure about nine muses tho.

    star empire has a lot of fucking talented people, but they don't have good strategies. rating 19+ for wild wtf it's not even close to troublemaker. jewelry needs some polish, ppl are forgetting them. ze:a's excessive japan activities, excuse me they are from korea. julien kang is doing fine on his own. that popping guy + vos + seo inyoung already went somewhere else. and i'm still waiting for impact's debut. park jungah, not sure about her.

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  33. i remember when BoA first debuted, she was in the recording studio and put her cup of coffee on some recording equipment. One of the SM staff members yelled at her and said the equipment was worth more than her life. She cried :(

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  34. In BDSM maybe?

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  35. Their company is so friggin shitty. Everyone should watch the documentary, those girls go through hell and get treated by crap by their management... especially poor Sera because she was originally the leader and the CEO just doesn't like her for whatever reason that she would get criticized and attacked every time things didn't go the way management liked.

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  36. This is too long, can you tell us rougly when it happens?

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  37. She's smiling bc its on broadcast...

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  38. Her slight smile is her way of dealing with his abuse. Some ppl react that way when they're angry but can't express it out.

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  39. Try watching the documentary...

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  40. Relax. She's a Masochist

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  41. I watched ZE:A's predebut documentary and it's the way it is with this company. From the CEO to the managers. They yell at the trainees, hit them. And to my surprise some people even said it was rightful for them to do so.

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  42. it's also an embarrassed reaction too, knowing it is filmed.

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  43. The people assuming that the CEO was joking clearly has not seen the Nine Muses documentary. Watch it for yourself and you'll see how horribly they were being treated. They were degraded and humiliated not just once, but MULTIPLE times by the CEO and the rest of the staff. Several members (now ex-members) even stated, "What am I still doing here?" Sera also goes on to say that she feels ugly, and those feelings come directly from the verbal and mental abuse. And before any self-righteous people go on to say, "Well every other idol group has been through it," THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S OKAY. Keep that bullshit to yourself.

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  44. I hate their company system but, look at nine muses now. on dolls promotion there's a girl group ranking and they are leveling up. getting more intl fans every single day because their great song and uniqueness. and now WILD give them another 800++ new fans on their fancafe(and ofc new intl fans too). I know this because I following them, and they will leveling up soon (again).
    Sera said she don't hate her past (refer to that documentary). as long as the CEO give them a motivation to survive in business, why not?

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  45. Have they not watched IDOL (nine muses documentary) cos....oh boy.

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  46. In bdsm its consensual dumbass.

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  47. They could have addressed it another way. "move that out of the way, we don't allow drinks on the console." Then mention the console's value.
    You don't have to say "worth more than your life."
    The mixing console is valued at over $20,000 that i know. And she was 13, I'm sure she doesn't cry as easily now.

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  48. The gif is in slow motion so we can't tell by that. If you did a slap in super slow motion it would be playful, we're gonna have to watch the video at full speed.

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  49. After watching the documentary....it really enlightened me. Nine muses literally have my respect and support,because they had to go through hell in order to debut. Sera my love <3 Be strong girl !

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  50. it's like Jaejoong slapping his fans.

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  51. If he keeps doing this... won't it be a problem later?

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  52. I've been looking for the full documentary for forever! Thanks for posting this

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  53. Poor her. Its looks like she used to it.

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  54. google it. you have the internet at your finger tips yet you ask questions that can easily be answered

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  55. you mean Yoochun...

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  56. Honestly I don't know anything about nine muses... When they debuted everyone wrote them off as soshi-copies so I figured they wouldn't be around long and I didn't bother following them... They're all nugus to me still.

    But this girl... She's really pretty...ahh, don't make such a sad defeated smile, it breaks my heart. Himnae pretty nugu.

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  57. just watch the damn clip it came from. people aren't assuming, it's right there in front of your eyes/ears. he was angry in the clip, by his actions, tone, and words. no other explanation.

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  58. both, Jaejoong and yoochun hit and insult girls.

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  59. Make sure safe search is OFF

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  60. Watch the documentary.

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  61. wtf.....omg omg omg omg thanks hahhahha new info today

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  62. I know Idols are seen as just produkts of a company but they works their ass off the get so perfect and they don't deserve that

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  63. I don't understand why Sera gets all the faults.. I watched half of the documentary and even a member said that Sera always gets the blame, although no one knows why. Wth of a person are you to let her get the blame of something YOU did.. Ugh I feel SO bad for her. She's my fav. Gorgeous and very talented T_T.

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  64. her smile.. it's so heartbreaking to see it :'(

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  65. the name of the documentary please ? o u o;

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  66. such a pretty girl.

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  67. that time in nine muses were hard, but now they are happier and doing much better in terms of everything.

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  68. well if you think logically, maybe that's why 6 out of 9 original line up of nine muses didn't get to debut. maybe because they quit because it was too harsh. kyungri & sungah probably joined later because they were requested, or they think the group has potential to succeed.

    the ceo & managers are too strict & harsh, but i don't think to the point of abusing them.

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  69. too bad people are judging them without learning about them or at least watch their abilities n simply following the majority sentiment on them which bound to be negative since they're not from some overrated companies with free hypes.
    try watch them perform and they'll blow you away.
    and sure both Nine Muses and ZE:A had harsh life as trainee and even probly after debut too...but i think it's part of what makes them so well mannered and tough, in a way? i'm not gonna justify this company for what they do...but i won't be surprised if other companies are the same or worse. only difference is that Star Empire doesn't seem afraid to show who they are and how they train/treat their artistes. besides, those who watch SE documentary(when ZE:A n Nine Muses were still trainees) would see how close the trainees, artistes, n staffs are despite the strict life. the CEO is like a father figure to them n i guess that's how they learn to live with it. though i do hope nothing worse going on other than what's been shown.

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  70. That made my day.

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  71. lol she seems used to him slapping his cock against her face like that

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  72. yup...sucking his cock in a similar fashion

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  73. I prefer the term, "SASAENG".

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  74. You can tell that this isn't a play hit between the two. He clearly is scolding her for something because his mouth is moving after the hit.

    Plus her face tells it all. Either, "Bitch, you are going down. Now esp when this is on broadcast" expression or an embarrassed look or she thinks that her CEO is ridiculous for over-reacting.


    Hopefully this becomes a big issue so that the CEO will be taken down.

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  75. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8

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  76. do you know where can I watch it online? is it on youtube?

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  77. Calling AttentionMay 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Still being mistreated by your ceo is not as bad as being mistreated by your guardian. The latter is waaaaay worse because you can't exactly null a contract. Otherwise, anyone who is being abused can LEAVE. I'm sure those in the group who chose to stay really wanted the opportunity that bad and that's probably how the company was able to "weed out the weaklings."

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  78. Park Jung Ah left Star Empire for another agency called WM Company and is planning to have activies in China as actress. She is also recovering after her thyroid cancer.

    http://www.soompi.com/2013/05/11/park-jung-ah-changes-agencies-and-recovering-from-thyroid-cancer/

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  79. Your welcome :)

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  80. I'm pretty sure you will get interested if you watch it. I am not a hardcore fan of them. One of my friend who is one of their hardcore fan gave this link to me. I think it's worth to watch even how long is the duration.

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  81. I have not get the time to watch it but from the preview alone I can see their CEO and company employee are psycho. This is like a company abusing 9 girls in public and nobody report them to the police. Disgusting.

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  82. i think it's because she's the leader and she's also responsible for the whole group. But yeah, Sera doesn't deserve this treatment at all :(

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  83. If they can get 9muses into sistar lv I would slightly overlook their company's abusive behavior. Psychical and verbal abuse are never right in every way. I would not call this behavior as "giving a motivation". They have no option but too keep practicing and succeed otherwise consequences are waiting for them. The verbal abuse they are receiving could always impact them later.

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  84. It looks like she is ashamed because this was on broadcast.

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  85. Bondage, Dominance, and Sadomasochism.

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  86. They are extremely expensive but that was rude

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  87. idk it looks like they're joking around.

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  88. Some Asian cultures are really into this type of disciplinary actions :/ I remember when I was in 3rd grade, my teacher would throw a ball of stockings at us if we were talking in class.
    She would also hit us with a stick if we don't know the answer and didn't clean the room well.


    In the US, this rarely happens because of lawsuits flying left and right.

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  89. tell us where it is, the documentary is long

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  90. Most prefer the term, "people he does not have a right to hit".

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  91. I heard that the time boa debuted, sm was in a real financial crisis so maybe that's why they're all so stressed and cranky and mean

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  92. I do agree when people tell how harsh their CEO, but hey they are running a business, they put a lot effort and money. in that documentary Sera was the leader, she has 8 girls, and they didn't obey Sera as Leader. that's a mess before their debut. How could you as a CEO take that as an easy problem?? maybe you know how much company spend money to make a girl/boy group. As you can see now, nine muses gain much skill than before. We don't know if their management keep their harsh behaviour or not when nine muses is one of the most addicting girl group, you can see how they tweet every day, and I assume they are really know how to keep going in kpop business

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  93. The 50 minute version isn't the full version?

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  94. could tell that so many words were left unsaid from the way she silently smiled :'(

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  95. I can't believe this is getting downvoted, wtf NB?

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  96. I just watched it all and I didn't see that scene anywhere, so..?

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  97. they are not women nor humans, so they deserve to be beaten.

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  98. So sad what the comment sections have become lol.

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  99. Nope, Apparently the one shown on BBC was a shortened version of the documentary, and I have yet to come across anyone whose seen the full version

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  100. wtf is your problem?

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  101. there was a video of Yoochun hitting a woman and audios were Jaejoong and Yoochun have been openly violent towards fans.

    Yoochun can be heard swearing at a woman over the phone, while Jaejoong not only swears at, but audibly and repeatedly hits what appears to be a female fan.

    "You follow me…this is fun, you guys are really going to have a lot of fun…because of you guys, because of you this is really shitty, isn’t it? You dog-like fucker. Do I have to live like this? Because of you?
    Do you guys know how many times I’ve hit people like you? Dozens of times, I can’t even count how many times. You, come here. Come here before I come get you. Hey! Get over here before I come and get you. Go! You fuckers. You’re gonna tell me you can’t go home because your face is swollen and then you’ll report me, you fucker? You can’t go home because your face is swollen so you’ll report me to the police and ask for compensation for injury? You fuckers…this is what a fan is? Bullshit…fuck."

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  102. and people don't boycott him why?

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  103. but even your parents hit you when you are doing something wrong.. thats why even after jyj hitting crazy fans they still get support in korea unlike t-ara.. i'm not jaejoong's fan but i dislike sasaeng.. sorry for my bad grammar..

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  104. Omg I heard the actual audio of it, and Jaejoong sounded like he was crying while saying it. His voice was broken and even though he was swearing at them, it sounded like he was rather begging them to stay away.

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  105. watch this youtube.com/watch?v=Rp8wZHV3Taw.. you will understand.. i think the one who angry at jyj for hitting crazy fans are actually the one who act like sasaeng.. they afraid that their oppa will hit them like jyj did to their sasaeng.. lol..

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  106. Jaejoong was drunk so it doesn't matter.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJIrU4Rk6mY

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  107. Oh? Intriguing...hm...I really want to see the full one now.


    The documentary was certainly a must see, though, for anyone who hasn't. Worth the 50 minutes.

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  108. Is this gif from this documentary? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8

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  109. he sounds very angry

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  110. the audio is up there and honestly Jae doesn't sound like he's crying :/

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  111. an asshole of a boss

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  112. That's so not cool

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  113. you have issues. get therapy or something

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  114. ....WHAT.AN.ASSHIT.

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  115. great...you can join the ilbe community...they also like to decide who and who isn't human and their solution is also violence.

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  116. sasengs don't deserve to be called fans..they don't deserve to have the freedom to stalk their biases, shit on their property, scratch/claw/grope/etc their biases.......and that reasoning goes both ways...

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  117. Wow, your parents must be abusing because my parents have never laid a hand on me..

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  118. Indeed it's a major problem when a group refuse to listen to their leader however, there are ways to discipline and train people without using physical and verbal violence. I know how much the company invest on their trainee. The same goes for every other businesses. I would let it pass if they use an exercise type punishment rather than hitting them directly.


    What I dislike the most is their verbal abuse. It would impact their mental state. I believe none of them is fat, they just need to lost weight in order to meet the crazy standard the public wants from idol; none of them are talentless dancer or singer, they need to practice more to minimize mistakes on stage. Shaming people is not the best way to teach people.


    This is no difference with a man who kept a woman locked on his storage for years. At first she doesn't believe that she's worthless, ugly, unwanted, and nobody cares about her. As time goes by she eventually believe that she's a worthless human being who always make mistakes, never able get anything done correctly, and so on.


    All I can do is hoping they don't get abused anymore.

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  119. The version you just saw is the edited version; the full documentary is 80 minutes long but BBC has not released the full version yet.

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  120. from what show was that gif taken?

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  121. May be the downvoters don't like the video (because of bad treatment). They supposed to vote down the video not the comment.

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  122. Relax. You're a dumbass

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  123. This makes me so angry. If I were her, I'd chop that CEO's balls off and hang them on my wall as a decoration.

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  124. The doco shows nothing illegal. Just very harsh management of a group that is about to debut.

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  125. Never become an idol in a small company, you will be treated like money and nothing more.

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  126. Sad. i feel pity for her.

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  127. or they're just people who don't think the "hands off" rule applies to both the sasaengs and idols.

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  128. You can tell from her face shes used to it... :(( horrible.. She sadly wont do this but shed put her killer high heels to good use and stab his ass with them...

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  129. 9muses of Star Empire, a documentary about Nine Muses.

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  130. Why is she smiling????

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  131. Do u have a link to the documentary??

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  132. I wouldn't call that smiling...more like a snide smirk, kinda like "I'm used to this shit now..."

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  133. even though ppl already saw how violent sasaeng are the blame will always be on the idol why? coz he's celeb. and he should suck it up pfff

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  134. troll you're so obvious go get a life while Jaejoong makes loads of money lol

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  135. i'd like to slap her on the ass, not the face.

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  136. sorry for riding your comment but here is the video of the gif

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_naJfalApg

    and you can watch the documentary here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8

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  137. But do you even know why Yoochun hit that crazy girl?
    Because she touched his private parts.
    What would you do or feel if a unknown guy will touch your breast?.

    I'm not saying this to justify their actions because
    I'm the first who says that they shouldn't do that kind
    of things.

    But as a human being, putting aside their status,
    I can understand why they acted that way, even more
    when this kind of incidents happened not just 3 neither
    4... It happened around 9 years.
    They've been harassed so many times.

    And with Jaejoong... is the same. He wound't say that
    without a reason. The are actually 2 records. One where you can only hear him swearing and the other, the complete one, where they actually provoke him.

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  138. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHGOVdKUd8

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  139. sadly I think that most of the Idols are treated like garbage cuz their company thinks they own them !

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  140. err i dont know, she kinda looks like she was enjoying it like she was hoping he would spank her later on at night

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  141. please get your facts straight, first they're not fans, they're stalkers, and in my opinion they deserve it. even though he didn't really hit them because the stalker admitted that the beating sounds were added to the video and he didn't hit her. and about yoochun, there's a full video of what happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuW5En_fqSE , she slapped him and she was gonna slap him again then he grabbed her hand to stop her. and even if they did I honestly wouldn't blame not because I'm a fan but because sasaeng have done horrible things to them (http://mikolah.blogspot.com/2012/08/sasaeng-fans.html) put your self in their shoes, if you were them and sasaeng did this crazy things to you, what will you do? honestly?

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  142. That moment where..I would've kicked his ass....

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  143. Another fucking crap CEO

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  144. Is there a video or a link to the story?

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  145. They go by the motto ''all for one and one for all'', basically it's do or die. The member that said that probably just wanted to mind her own bussiness. They said it themselves in the documentary that no one cares about each other, everyone is trying to survive basically.

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  146. I love how JYJ haters like to twist things to further their own agenda. Yoochun swore at the saesaeng because she called him up telling him that she used his ID number at an internet cafe. Now, if someone managed to steal your ID and use it, how would you feel, Miss Self-righteous? That video of Yoochun "hitting" a girl was actually Yoochun hitting her hand away as she was trying to hit/tap him. If he really hit her, she would have cried murder, and the crowd there would have reacted, but instead, nobody acted out of the ordinary. Of course, haters like you would refuse to believe that. So, haters will always hate.

    The audio taken of Jaejoong was around the time JYJ filed the lawsuit against SM in 2009--the most stressful time of their lives. Even though he was on personal vacation trying to get away from the madness, sasaengs still managed to find him. Wouldn't you be creep out if a bunch of strangers know you whereabouts at all times?. Also, it's been proven that the audio was doctored to magnify the slapping sounds. They interview that girl, and she said that Jaejoong was trying to tap her forehead, a method used by Korean elders to reprimand youngsters. Those who watch Kdramas know what I am talking about.

    Of course, the audio reveals that JYJ has had many run-ins with sasaengs over the years. Since there are no videos, It's up to the individuals to decide whether JYJ really rough up their stalkers or not. Of course, those who dislike JYJ will immediately say that they hit their "fans". I hope that you guys will never have to get stuck in this kind of mess-up world. And don't even try to judge those who are relating to JYJ on a human level, and trying to imagine what it's like to be in their shoes. Trying to look at this situation with compassion and empathy does not mean one is denying that shit happened. No, I am not a delusional fangirl that has the oppa-didn't-mean-it syndrome.

    As for the sasaengs, I have no sympathy for them because they are not poor defenselessly little girls; they are psychotic stalkers getting away with relentlessly hunting their preys because the law considers them just adoring fangirls. It's too bad that unless they change the laws in Korea, these stalkers have been and will continue to get away with this is because in Korea, they don't prosecute underage kids for stalking. These girls know that they can get away with this and that's why they will continue even though JYJ and other idols have repeatedly asked them to stay away.

    I am seeing the kpop double standard rearing its ugly head again in this situation again. Would anyone condemn the victims of these type of stalking if JYJ were female idols instead of male idols? What if JYJ were accused of cussing and hitting male stalkers instead? I am a feminist, and a great proponent of equality of the sexes, but we should not use Disney feminism to judge and condemn JYJ just because JYJ are males.

    Folks, stalkers are stalkers regardless of their gender or age. To the righteous commenters, get off you high-horse and get your asses away from the computers and try to walk a mile in the shoes of JYJ or victims of stalking. In theory, violence should be avoided at all cost, but reality is a completely different matter. Real life is not black and white, but rather shades of grey. Ideally, no one should hit anyone, but we are talking about a messed-up world where rationality and civility don't exist. I am not gonna judge because I can't imagine what it's like being stalked 24/7 for years by these psychos.

    Then again, what's the use of trying to reason with a bunch of people that purposely brought this up just to hate and to stir shit up again even though most Koreans and i-fans sided with JYJ and other idols. Stalking is a crime and the stalking of idols is an issue that needs attention from the government. It's disappointing that some people keep bringing this up to to spread some JYJ hate and to have some fun.

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  147. It was on a variety show where they went behind the scenes of a day in the life of a 13 year old idol. You may never find this clip cuz its so old.

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  148. Yeah SM was on the verge of bankruptcy at the time.

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  149. WonderfulZingMinMay 16, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    I don't say this to bash them but Yoochun really did seem he was just protecting himself while Jaejoong he sounded a bit tipsy and handled it badly, the way he word himself is just not right. You can say he was mad or anything else but if he had just left out the curse words it would've sounded way worse.

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  150. Oh god girl, I bow down to you. I was so prepared to defend my/our boys but you worded it perfectly. Unfortunately, like your last paragraph, there's no use to reason with those who refuse to listen.

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  151. I think big companies like SM YG and JYP aren't like this. I mean discipline and violence are two different things.

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  152. Stupid delusional people like you deserve to die. We need to get rid of stupidity. What about that?

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  153. But same people who can grope them, steal their identification, use their credit car numbers, sneak into their apartments, pet their dogs without permission, scream/yell into their ears, hurl abusive, sexual phrases at them.

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  154. You sound pathetic while trying to victmize your oppa.I always thought that jeajoong is a jerk and he sounds and looks like one .Fame got into his head so he thinks that he can do anything.
    Stop defending your oppa just because you love him and you can't stand anything negative about him

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  155. Ohh okay. That sucks :/. I watched the documentary for nine muses and all I can say is I wouldn't be able to be an idol. They have put up with some much shit. It's really sad.

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  156. you never know what happens in big companies honestly...and besides, you don't even know what entirely happen in small companies to make assumption based on a gif or one documentary without watching all their other behind the scenes stuffs n the entire documentary they have and stuffs. so the best thing to do is not making an assumption.

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  157. hurt him /and/ the girls?

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  158. so now I know that beside CCM CEO there is another bastard CEO

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  159. As I said, I'm not justifying their actions and if you can read, in no where I'm denying the girls to be hit by them.

    I'm just saying that in some way, I can understand why they did that.
    Were that actions from them wrong? Yes, It really was,
    but being a celebrity doesn't quit you to first be a human being and so act as such.

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  160. well, you never know...ZE:A n Nine Muses became well mannered idols because of the harsh trainee life they went through. they were disciplined. the company might be harsh on them, but you can see they also cared. ZE:A members were punished when cigarettes were found in their drawer...but it's for their health as singers/person...it's not entirely bad. the managers always degrade them, sure it makes them feel bad, but how much both ZE:A and Nine Muses had improved n grow with the 'i'm not good enough' mindset instilled by harsh treatment...they've become amazing performers even if still unpopular since they're not from bighyped companies and yet, you can still see ZE:A n Nine Muses members being playful with their CEO n managers(for those who cared to find out other than assuming everything based on one freaking documentary)...Nine Muses member even parodied the CEO on twitter during april fools' and ZE:A members too can be seen fooling around with the staffs n CEO sometimes, the CEO treat them like his own children...as said by the members themselves...eventhough he doesn't pamper them...just like a strict kinda parent. honestly, i don't really care about the company at first...but after watching tons of their shows, behind-the-scenes and see the relationship, i find it unfair that people are just focusing on the negative parts of the CEO/managers/company n ignore all the heartwarming parts. they're small company, but they(the whole company-including CEO/staffs/trainees-back when ZE:A n Nine Muses haven't debuted) voted,cheered and cried together when VOS won over Super Junior in a music show...they all get giddy n freaking excited together when a manager appeared in movie even if his face didn't even came out and just his body walking by...and everyone got crazy. The whole company danced together to cheer for ZE:A when they had a comeback. a member who was injured got the opportunity to rest and recover instead of being forced to perform while injured. They might be a small company. but that's the kind of company Star Empire is. i just feel this needed to be said. not just to you, but to everyone who judge based on one thing they saw.

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  161. Thank you for clarifying things once again. As usual, trolls and haters take everything out of context and distort the truth to defame JYJ, smh.

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  162. does anyone have the link to this documentary? the ones on youtube are weird

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  163. Can you give me the link.

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  164. okay, so im watching the documentary right now and the way he treats them is horrifying... almost like prostitutes.
    when you see documentaries of other groups, they arent this depressed and controlled (snsd, f(x), wonder girls, etc.)

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  165. They don't deserve it. At most they are emotionally and psychologically unstable young girls. Yes, they do shitty things. No, they don't deserve to get hit. Kpop fans are disgusting you would justify anything.

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  166. they had a few documentaries...but honestly, do you really big companies who have their oh-so-perfect image to keep up would show their crap-side? i'm actually relieved to be able to see their crap and not-crap sides so i know what to expect kind of, though i hope nothing worse goes on behind the camera...but not seeing anything bad on scripted documentaries, doesn't mean nothing bad happens.

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  167. i kno i kno, but in general...
    i mean, the documentaries with the other girl groups isnt full of unicorns and rainbows either. but this is too much for me to handle T__T

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  168. Jaejoong gets groped everytime he runs into Saesangs. And TV5Q have at least 150 Saesangs / Saetak following them at any point of time.

    Let's think about it this way,
    there is a anonymous man/woman following you around for 9-10 years.
    This person send you his/her underwear with her menstruation blood/semen.
    He/She breaks into your house, feels your face, kisses you while you sleep.You're unable to date because every one gets the scared the shit out.

    Then your friend texts you saying "when do we hang out?" He/She calls your friend asking "Who are you? Why are you calling out _____?"

    You can't take it anymore, so you change your phone number. You get a text message saying "You changed your number :)"

    You went to hang out with friends but the guy/the woman followed you on a Taxi and purposely crashes your car. You almost died.

    You tried being angry after getting out of the car, but all you see is that person smirking.

    He/She goes through your closet and takes your underwear.

    When you're not at home, he/she breaks in and takes pictures of your house and sends you. You go to your parents house, he/she follows.

    You somehow go on a business trip out of the country. He/she follows. He/she copied your phone and is constantly watching. If you try to become a member on a website, you're already a member.

    He/she slaps you on the face for no reason when you walk on the streets. He also gropes on your breast and touches your private space/She also gropes your balls.

    This goes on for 9 years. You had a drink. You walk out and the person is staring at you. You called the police, but guess what they said?

    It's his "first offence", so the police don't really care. They say, it's because he loves me.

    Credits: https://twitter.com/moonremix / https://twitter.com/sulpumisang

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  169. I think youare overreacting with this I remember watching some of the documentary and the CEO treats them like if they were his daughters.

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  170. Him,Kim Kwang Soo, and The CEO of Open World entertainment should bond... all assholes & shitty of a boss ...I think they would all get along with each other

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  171. Junsu didn't hit anyone.Whya re you saying that you admire people like jj and yc who beat women.They only like victimls to you because they whine all the time.F

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  172. thats really sad. Is there anything fans can do to stop that mans abusing ?

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  173. Junsu didn't beat anyone.So stop making excuses for the other 2. Are you saying that jj and yc earned your respect because they beat girls? They whine all the time and sadly they made people think that they are victims when in reality fame got into their heads.Even hyori admitted that fame got into her head at one point and she thought that she can do anything an no one can say no to her.
    Some people and other stars suffer but they don't talk about it all the time like JYJ but they know
    how to react in a good way.Those deseve respect more

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  174. Junsu didn't beat anyone.So stop making excuses for the other 2. Are you
    saying that jj and yc earned your respect because they beat girls?
    They whine all the time and sadly they made people think that they are
    victims when in reality fame got into their heads.Even hyori admitted
    that fame got into her head at one point and she thought that she can do
    anything an no one can say no to her.
    Some people and other stars suffer but they don't talk about it all the time like JYJ but they know
    how to react in a good way.Those deseve respect more

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  175. TYPICAL fangirls who will defend their oppas even if they kill someone

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  176. I watched the pre-debut stuff and i hated the way he talked down at them and about their weight and stuff. like he's a totally douche nozzle

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  177. Junsu didn't beat anyone.So stop making excuses for the other 2. Are you
    saying that they have to beat girls to earn your respect because they
    beat girls?
    They whine all the time and sadly they made people
    think that they are victims when in reality fame got into their
    heads.Even hyori admitted that fame got into her head at one point and
    she thought that she can do
    anything an no one can say no to her.
    Some people and other stars suffer but they don't talk about it all the time like JYJ but they know
    how to react in a good way.Those deseve respect more.
    How
    exactly did jyj endure a lot? once they left sm, they had their
    fangirls from old days who supported them and they still buy anything
    they produce.they don't need promotions to do that.All their fans think
    that they are victims.Are you saying blocking again? who cares? It means
    less work for jyj and more money since they will have time to do more
    concerts and cfs.

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  178. Junsu didn't beat anyone

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  179. Junsu didn't beat anyone.So stop making excuses for the other 2. Are you
    saying that they have to beat girls to earn your respect because they
    beat girls?
    They whine all the time and sadly they made people
    think that they are victims when in reality fame got into their
    heads.Even hyori admitted that fame got into her head at one point and
    she thought that she can do
    anything an no one can say no to her.
    Some people and other stars suffer but they don't talk about it all the time like JYJ but they know
    how to react in a good way.Those deseve respect more.
    How
    exactly did jyj endure a lot? onec they left sm, they had their
    fangirls from old days who supported them and they still buy anything
    they produce.they don't need promotions to do that.All their fans think
    that they are victims.Are you saying blocking again? who cares? It means
    less work for jyj and more money since they will have time to do more
    concerts and cfs.

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  180. Junsu didn't beat anyone.So stop making excuses for the other 2. Are you
    saying that they have to beat girls to earn your respect because they
    beat girls?
    They whine all the time and sadly they made people
    think
    that they are victims when in reality fame got into their heads.Even
    hyori admitted that fame got into her head at one point and she thought
    that she can do
    anything an no one can say no to her.
    Some people and other stars suffer but they don't talk about it all the time like JYJ but they know
    how to react in a good way.Those deseve respect more.
    Howexactly
    did jyj endure a lot? onec they left sm, they had their fangirls from
    old days who supported them and they still buy anything
    they
    produce.they don't need promotions to do that.All their fans think that
    they are victims.Are you saying blocking again? who cares? It means
    less work for jyj and more money since they will have time to do more
    concerts and cfs...

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  181. I don't care if he's her boss. Nobody should treat another human being like that. It's about basic decency and respect you give to someone else.

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  182. Nine Muses should win an award for most improved group. Just watch their no playboy debut, even the girls themselves admitted they were bad. They are like a group of Taemins.....getting rid of the dead weight and adding in Hyuna, Kyungri and Sungah were great as well.


    Still though no matter how tough the training and no matter how high up in power you are, things like this shouldn't happen. Though this was during debut I can't see them doing this now. Also big ups to Sera she wasn't even the official leader yet all the blame early on went to her and because of that most the staff though poorly of her but she still stuck through and persevered, mad respect.

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  183. Junsu, Yunho and Changmin also have stalkers but they didn't beat any women.

    Someone tried to kill Yunho but he didn't responce with violence.

    Yoochun and Jaejoong are rich, they should hire more security.

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  184. I really hate it when CEOs like this. He's a bastard.

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  185. I watched the documentary.
    Their souls were really tortured. It was so sad to watch.
    What's even more sad is that they're not the only ones who go through this.

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